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Majority of Americans — and even the majority of Republicans — support McCarthy's ouster (www.politico.com)

submitted 1 year ago by DocMcStuffin to c/politics

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A new CBS News poll found that a majority of Americans support the House’s move to oust Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) as speaker, with 60% of adults in the U.S. backing the removal.

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Notably, 54% of Americans who identified as conservative expressed approval for ousting McCarthy, while 70% of Americans who called themselves liberals backed the move.

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[–] carl_dungeon 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, he was a piece of shit before being elected, what changed?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

piece of shit before being elected

But now with another job title on his resume.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah of course because he worked with DEMON CRATS!! He should be thrown out!

But now we need to throw out Gaetz (who is probably related to Bill Gates the 5G guy) for working with DEMON CRATS ato throw him out!!!

Hey can we like push this narrative in their spaces so that we can keep throwing GOoPers out cuz they voted with Democrats? That would be so hilarious. Hint hint

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I like the cut of your jib, sir.

Let’s make it clear to the vast majority of Americans who are still somewhat sane that the GOP is materially incapable of governing at all - let alone in a competent fashion.

[+] cbarrick -14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Why in the world would any American support this chaos?

Like, I'm a progressive and I very much disagree with McCarthy's politics, but there's a lot going on right now and chaos in the house is not productive.

I mean, maybe it's just because McCarthy refused to work across the aisle.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

The house wasn't productive before McCarthy getting the boot, so I don't see why you view this as a step back. McCarthy was a terrible speaker for most Americans, even most Republicans. He let himself be completely held hostage by the most radical wing of his party, constantly broke public promises, refused to work across the aisle (until he was getting voted out when he expected the left to bail him out, immediately after reneging on several promises, both regarding the govt shutdown and the impeachment).

The only thing he managed at all in his final days was to narrowly avoid a govt shutdown due to squabbling among his own people, and even there he only barely delayed it.

The hope is that his successor will learn from his mistake and get the votes he/she needs from moderate democrats rather than bowing down to every demand from the most unhinged members of his party

Tl;Dr he was objectively terrible at his job, even for moderate republicans and the odds are low that we'll be worse off with whatever replacement is chosen for him

[–] flossdaily 16 points 1 year ago

House Democrats support his ouster because ANY Republican Speaker is going to face the same problems with the MAGAts, and maybe the next Speaker will occasionally side with the moderate instead of capitulating with the alt-right every time McCarthy did.

Also, chaos in the House is better than the right-wing doing all the evil shit they do when they are working as a team.

Democrats have zero incentive to help them out of this mess.

If course, if even a HANDFUL of Republicans were willing to reach across the aisle, they could form a coalition with the Democrats, find a moderate Republican speaker and pass all kinds of moderate legislation that must even get through the Senate.

[–] captainlezbian 12 points 1 year ago

It’s because he refused to work across the aisle and frequently lied to democrats about it

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You know, when you stab other people in the back by going on TV doing that, don't be surprised to see others return the favor. So, yes, McCarthy was ousted, and no Democrats are not obligated to support some one who is fine stabbing them in the back.

Signed, another progressive.

[–] halferect 4 points 1 year ago

Even with McCarthy it was chaos. Anytime the republicans run the house it's chaos. Look at the last 50+ years and anytime the republicans run the house it's just a total shit show