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Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said the U.S. stands squarely by Israel and will ensure it “has what it needs to defend itself” after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared war against Palestinian militants that launched a surprise attack on his country.

Austin said in a statement he was “closely monitoring developments in Israel” and extended his condolences to families of the victims who lost their lives in the Saturday attack.

“Our commitment to Israel’s right to defend itself remains unwavering,” Austin said. “Over the coming days the Department of Defense will work to ensure that Israel has what it needs to defend itself and protect civilians from indiscriminate violence and terrorism.”

The U.S. is one of Israel’s staunchest allies and has provided around $3.8 billion a year to the country.

Netanyahu declared war on Saturday against Palestinian militant groups after Hamas launched a surprise, multi-frontal attack inside Israel.

Militants launched more than 2,000 missiles and stormed Israel from multiple directions after infiltrating the border.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why are the displaced and oppressed minority always described as militants? Fuck Israel.

[–] snek 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hamas is technically a militant group.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Israel made their bed, they should lie in it

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Aint Bibi a criminal? You're gonna finance the war hes gonna use to dissolve more of the protections that should have kept him out of office?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, skilled politicians never let a good crisis go to waste.

[–] avater 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

wow...I get the feeling that this this community is quite against Israel.

[–] MutilationWave 45 points 1 year ago

I'll speak for myself but I'm not against the Israeli people other than the settlers. Israel keeps grabbing up Palestinian land and moving settlers in. It's already an apartheid state situation. What Hamas did today was terrible, and Israel did what it always does- blow up civilians. Hamas and the increasingly dictatorial government of Israel are both shitty, but Israel provoked this shit by backing desperate people into a corner.

[–] gmtom 20 points 1 year ago

Personally I'm not against Israel specifically, just any Etho/religious state, any state commiting war crimes, any state commiting genocide and any colonialist power.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Zionists can go pound sand.

[–] sturmblast 1 points 1 year ago

I'm against spending money on pointless and futile efforts

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder how the American people would respond to this if it were put to a vote.

Something tells me we wouldn't get 50% of the nation to agree to funding Israel.

[–] takeda 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

After seeing videos recorded by militants themselves, it is really hard to support Palestine. It looks like likely Gaza strip (controlled by Hamas) might be no more after this and there might be little international opposition.

I think Hamas fucked Palestinians hard with this move.

I normally don't support Israel, but there's no way I support this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm not saying support Palestine.

I'm saying remove funding for Israel, one of the wealthiest nations in the world.

If they need more money, they can take it from their ruling class instead of our taxpayers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't that a bit patronizing? I would guess Israel is well equipped to deal with the situation on it's own.

But maybe it's more about US internal politics or media?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are you serious? An ally declared war, you expected what? A get well card?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good point, maybe that's all there is to it, and I'm reading too much into it. I stumbled over sentences like this one:

“Over the coming days the Department of Defense will work to ensure that Israel has what it needs to defend itself and protect civilians [...]”

That seems to imply Israel currently, without benevolent help, does not have what it needs, and cannot protect it's own civilians. The wording can be seen as a way to stylize Israel as a dependent weakling. Also note they talk about a proactive, unilateral action. US takes steps to ensure that Israel can defend itself. That's quite different from coming to help, or offering assistance.

There are other ways to react and phrase things. They could firmly reassure their ally of their unconditional support by offering it, whenever Israel wants to request it. Maybe even prepare steps but emphasize it's Israel's call. While expressing confidence Israel is well equipped to deal with the situation.

But maybe the servant role does not sell so well to the domestic audience. Again, I don't know. I just found this odd.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think I read somewhere that Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of US foreign aid since WWII....so there's that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ally or dependant?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

God dammit pentagon, shut the fuck up

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said the U.S. stands squarely by Israel and will ensure it “has what it needs to defend itself” after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared war against Palestinian militants that launched a surprise attack on his country.

Austin said in a statement he was “closely monitoring developments in Israel” and extended his condolences to families of the victims who lost their lives in the Saturday attack.

“Over the coming days the Department of Defense will work to ensure that Israel has what it needs to defend itself and protect civilians from indiscriminate violence and terrorism.”

Netanyahu declared war on Saturday against Palestinian militant groups after Hamas launched a surprise, multi-frontal attack inside Israel.

The U.S. has condemned the recent violence and White House National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan has discussed the situation with his counterpart.

The latest clashes come after decades of violence between Palestine and Israel, which has only picked up in recent months following more controversial policies under Netanyahu’s far-right government against Palestinian communities.


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