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DIY tinkerer invents MacBook tool that breaks Apple’s repair locks::“To whoever it is at Apple who decided to not make this available to technicians, ‘Fuck you, we win.’”

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[–] cybervseas 92 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I know Apple's gonna Apple, but at some point you'd think someone over there would think this is all getting a bit silly…

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm sure all the normal workers think a lot of things they do is absurd and borderline criminal but money is money so they don't care.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hol up. We're not talking about murder, we're talking about inconveniencing consumers. Engineers are not the wealthy, they are the middle class. They live in this capitalist hellscape, too. Principled stands are great, but if your proposed solution is that people should put their ability to get healthcare, food, and shelter on the line to not inconvenience consumers because legislation and regulation are too hard.... That seems a bit much. Work on fixing the system rather than blaming the cogs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

? I'm not blaming the workers

I'm saying I feel all the workers think the companies are doing shady wrong things but do it anyways because it's a paycheck even though they themselves are technically screwing themselves over as the consumers

[–] atk007 6 points 1 year ago

borderline criminal but money is money

Like any mafia's motto

[–] A_Random_Idiot 19 points 1 year ago

I'd wager 80% of the cost of every apple device is nothing but covering the costs of research and development for fucking customers in the ass. they've put DRM on hall effect sensors, for fucks sake. All they do is detect the lid being closed, and you cant change them between computers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People know what they are getting into when they but this products. Still, they make the surprised Pikachu face when they charge them 1000 for a simple repair.

I understand this is a matter of legislation, but we also need to hold consumers responsible for their stupidity. This isn't a secret, this isn't hidden, everyone knows that Apple Apples.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (2 children)

so apple put a DRM on a glorified reed switch? and it's legal somehow?

[–] TheFeatureCreature 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Laws exist for everyday people like you and me, not for megacorps like Apple. Laws and regulations are just minor business expenses to them.

[–] kautau 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A fine is just an calculable price to do something wrong, businesses love them, from the classic study:

https://rady.ucsd.edu/_files/faculty-research/uri-gneezy/fine.pdf

Parents used to arrive late to collect their children, forcing a teacher to stay after closing time. We introduced a monetary fine for late-coming parents. As a result, the number of late-coming parents increased significantly.

[–] plz1 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just keep adding zeroes until you get the desired outcome.

[–] QuarterSwede 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is the correct answer. If the fine was $1000 for every time you picked your kid up late you can guarantee parents would never arrive late. Same goes for businesses. The fine just needs to be in the hundreds of millions to billions. They’d change their tune.

[–] plz1 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think its actually illegal to bypass DRM to fix it

[–] Touching_Grass 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even though I bought it. It's illegal to tinker with some components. And we're all OK enough with it.

I mean how did this get past the "Klaus Schwab is eating your children" crowd meanwhile we can't legally reverse engineer things we bought

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think those is DRM, as it digital rights. I think they were using it as a comparison.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I was thinking about buying a Macbook Air and run Linux on it, just for the battery life. But then I read this shit and yea...

[–] antimongo 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also the current Linux offerings for Apple Silicon (M1/M2) are very much “Beta”. And have some serious battery efficiency issues, don’t currently support audio drivers, have some peripheral problems, etc.

Looking forward to using one once they get them up to speed though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

True, true. I dont know about you guys, but I am not having a lot of fun buying and building computers lately. Shit like this headline doesnt help.

[–] antimongo 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Framework laptop brand gives me hope.

Unfortunately they still seem have a relatively high cost for their performance. But you can’t beat the modular design.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I'd say in this case the premium is justified and worth it if you can afford it. You're getting a top of the line, repairable & upgradeable, Linux friendly, esthetically pleasing laptop with excellent documentation, filling a void that simply wasn't there just a few short years ago. Also, if they reach critical mass and adoption, prices might come down.

[–] TK420 12 points 1 year ago

You will be disappointed in the battery life if you delete the thing that controls the battery life…..

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Get a thinkpad x1 carbon, great battery life, great for Linux, and you can get them at all sorts of price points and usb-c charging.

I just got a gen 8 refurb for $300 cdn and it's an amazing machine for its purposes. Easy to swap out SSD and wireless card for wifi 6.

[–] tahoe 5 points 1 year ago

Get it used. You get a Mac without giving Apple money. It’s all win.

[–] Bell 2 points 1 year ago

We need "linux-ability" score for laptops people are looking to convert.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Never heard of a lid-closed sensor being broken. Seems common in Apple?