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On bringing more users to Lemmy (self.reddit)
submitted 1 year ago by Draupnir to c/reddit
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So this Lemmy place is pretty awesome, and I see it growing by the hour! Just like others link external sites for content here, we should really also share Lemmy content to external (e.g. Reddit, Twitter, etc.) to show others where the users are going now.

Redditors will talk about Lemmy and moving communities here, but it is really best shown that the communities are rebuilding here. Thoughts? I’ve started with a few memes and am starting a new community here as well!

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[–] Candelestine 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wouldn't do it too aggressively. Targeting cool individuals for invitation is one thing, but aggressive blanket advertising would probably cause certain headaches that we're not yet ready for.

As the userbase grows, the rate of growth is going to increase as well, because you just can't stop people from talking about things. This would be a delicate time to massively accelerate that in any kind of coordinated way, imo.

Definitely produce content and communities though. That really only has benefits.

[–] Draupnir 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see your point, too much growth too fast would strain Lemmy devs as they work to ramp up capabilities

[–] FoxAndKitten 12 points 1 year ago

More than that - it would strain the nascent communities

Already we've started to see it with defederation - admins don't truly grasp the level of seriousness it represents, and are using it as a mod tool. It's one thing to use it against bots and malicious nodes, it's another to use it like a ban hammer

Plus, if you go on different servers, the experience is like a different site. Sh.itjust.works feels like shitpost central (not a criticism), lemmy.world feels like Reddit from a decade ago, lemmynsfw.com feels like a porn site built for tens of thousands and used by dozens.

I think it's great - half the draw of the fediverse is finding a new home, soon I'm going to start trying out some small servers and hopefully get to know some people alongside my accounts replacing the endless posts of Reddit (but with better quality IMO)

If a big wave comes all at once, it'll change the culture overnight. Small servers might close registration to preserve what they have, bigger ones might grow into it, but it also might be enough people to give the entire fediverse the feel of Reddit refugees

Once the culture becomes more stable, we're more likely to teach them the Lemmy way rather than rebuilding Reddit... It'll change no matter what as it grows, but the more gradual and organic the growth the healthier the community

[–] iamsgod 13 points 1 year ago

yeah. as it is right now, I'm not sure lemmy could handle that many users like reddit, and it still lacks in many way which could leave a bad impression. focusing on quality contents and improving UX is the right way IMO

[–] MargotRobbie 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If contents here are good enough and people are nice and thoughtful, then others will come.

But nobody really likes to see blanket ads for something they are not interested in, you can't force people to like things.

"Barbie", only in theaters July 21st.

[–] subtext 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Barbie”, only in theaters July 21st.

/u/[email protected]

hmmm.jpeg

[–] MargotRobbie 6 points 1 year ago

Hey, the writers are on strike, and I have bills to pay too, OK?

[–] pineapplefriedrice 2 points 1 year ago

Golden comment.

[–] CylonBunny 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sure Reddit at least blocks Lemmy links.

[–] OtakuAltair 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

People upset about third party apps will come if they know where the apps are going.

Link people to Sync for Lemmy and Liftoff for Lemmy (already usable) on Android

and Memmy for Lemmy (already usable) for those on iOS.

Also the 15+ apps currently in development for Lemmy/kbin

Edit: Jerboa on v0.18 servers is pretty darn good now.

[–] CaptainApathetic 11 points 1 year ago

Yea I think sync for Lemmy will be one of the big movers for people. Being able to use a different site but have it look and feel 99% the same makes that switch way easier.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but it is really best shown that the communities are rebuilding here

https://redditmigration.com/

(As others have said, though...tread lightly.)

[–] OtakuAltair 7 points 1 year ago

sub.rehab's better ui is much more likely to attract users

[–] NutWrench 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Instead of deleting my Reddit account, I'm editing my posts/replies there to all say, "edit: //I've moved to lemmy //" By doing this you're:

  1. Denying Reddit your content
  2. Telling everyone where you went and
  3. Your post Karma stays the same, so a highly upvoted comment of yours stays in the same place in the comment thread.
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

this Lemmy place

kbin.social

🤔

[–] pineapplefriedrice 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would be hesitant to do that just because you don't want reddit to remain the "place where you find everything". Promote the community, and link when someone is looking for something specific, but don't x-post and give people a reason to stay on reddit. Also bear in mind that reddit is now shadowbanning lemmy links, so mentioning the community (c/community) is preferable.

A really effective thing, I've found, is to ask the mods to promote individual communities, especially on restricted subs where mods are sympathetic to the protests.

[–] eleitl 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I actually think there are now enough, and we could rather do without memes and consumers of them. It would be more useful to bring the niche technical communities over.

So just recreate those you care about, prime the pump and invite the key contributors over.

[–] xyzinferno 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While I do agree that a more technical crowd would be more desirable, I feel like this is a bit short-sighted in a few ways, though if my reasoning seems off, by all means, feel free to correct me

The way I see it, Lemmy should be big enough to at least have name recognition when discussing forums, message boards, etc. Which right now, I don't believe it does, outside of the groups that are still following the Reddit protests pretty closely.

Memes attract a crowd seeking quick, entertaining content. It's a large crowd of people, and appealing to them means you'll be pumping your numbers up; number of posts being made, upvotes given, etc.

In turn, people in general will view a larger user base as a more appealing destination to take their activity to. For example, if I wanted to start a niche community, like for an indie game, specific literary genre, a band, some new product, etc., would I be more interested in starting it in Lemmy or at Reddit, which has much more name recognition and active users? The latter would seem more appealing to the average person, because they believe they'd be able to reach more people. Because Reddit has more people.

TL;DR- Intentionally closing ourselves off to more people could hurt us with the technical crowd that we do want. And plus, even the technical crowd needs entertainment.

[–] burak 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dunno. I am technical and one of the reasons that kept me on reddit so long is the amount of non-technical people there. I enjoy talking to technical people but almost all my real life friends are like that and for me reddit was a place where I could discuss niche -non technical- topics.

[–] eleitl 1 points 1 year ago

The barriers to entry aren't sufficiently high to keep these who are really interested out. I also expect it to become easier with time as tooling improves.

If you browse the community lists on bigger instances there are already lots of diverse non-technical ones. Will also get more ineresting there over time.

[–] Flipht 0 points 1 year ago

I've just been blocking meme communities as I see them.

Any new service will be the same. You have to spend some energy filtering to get the content you want, because we all want to produce and consume different things. And that's good!

I'm also blocking city and regional communities that have no impact on me.