this post was submitted on 02 Oct 2023
186 points (97.9% liked)

196

16436 readers
1768 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other^ ^rules^

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
top 28 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] complacent_jerboa 12 points 1 year ago

I am going to call it that now.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you're running Ubuntu as a server this is useful advice.

If you're running Ubuntu as a desktop, just install Fedora instead..

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or Mint which is pre unsnapped for your pleasure

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Mint is a solid choice, but I really like KDE and Fedora saves me the hassle of switching DEs after install.

But yes, for most Ubuntu users, switching to Mint is a capital idea.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Naah fedora = red hat and red hat = bad. I’m all in on Vanilla OS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

OpenSUSE Tumbleweed moment (although I'm still on Fedora on my primary device because moving is inconvenient while at school)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except red head is profit driven but fedora is conmunity driven and open source

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Fedora is funded by red hat

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Red Hat are no better or worse than Canonical at the end of the day. If you're dead set on avoiding anything with corporate backing, I guess switch to Gentoo or something.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not up to date on my Linux drama, what's wrong with Snap?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Slow, forced. Flatpack is better.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Huh, guess when I eventually end up back on Linux I'll stay away from Ubuntu then. I assume it's in things like Xubuntu and so on too?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I personally wouldn’t stay away from Ubuntu just because of petty nerd shenanigans like this one. At the end of the day it’s still a very mature and beginner friendly distro.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I used to use it back in the day, I even kinda liked that Unity thing they were doing for a minute. Whenever I end up back there (technically I'm already on Linux because I have a Steam Deck) I'm more likely to look for something lightweight

[–] endhits 2 points 1 year ago

Just use Fedora. In my opinion, it's the new gold standard for standard use Linux distributions.

If you really want an Ubuntu base, Pop!_OS is also good. They're working on making their own desktop environment, which is looking pretty sweet.

[–] blackjam_alex 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's centralized and controlled by Canonical, it enforces updates and you can't disable it, sometimes when you uninstall snapd it cames back when you apt update and most importantly, it is painfully slow.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Oh so it's the exact kind of enshittification that anyone on Linux went there to escape. Sounds like a deal breaker to me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

So it’s not about snap, it’s about canonical- and they are why I’m no longer an Ubuntu user. Debian > any downstream distro

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, sounds extremely shitty. It'd be fine if they didn't force it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the fact they're forcing it tells you they're going to do something anti-consumer with it, so even if it doesn't suck now it will in the future.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Valid point

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

whem/if i do get a computer i'm thinking of dualbooting windows and linux mint (since the only computer I have is a school laptop that runs windows)

[–] complacent_jerboa 3 points 1 year ago

That's how I started out! It was a pretty decent experience.

However, I would rate Debian as a slightly better choice over Mint. You see, Mint is a fork of Ubuntu (which is a fork of Debian). So when I needed to troubleshoot an issue, instead of just googling "Linux Mint [my issue]", I actually sometimes had to google "Ubuntu [my issue]", or even "Debian [my issue]", depending on the situation. This is because Mint and Ubuntu share large similarities with Debian, but with certain particular differences; for any given situation, I didn't necessarily know which differences played a role. This is actually why I switched to Debian; I figured, my experience was going to be basically exactly the same, just with more straightforward troubleshooting.

If you're worried about user-friendliness, then the good news is that's largely to do with your desktop environment (GNOME, KDE, Cinnamon, etc). Whichever one you pick, it will pretty much feel the exact same no matter whether the underlying distro is Debian, Ubuntu, or Mint. Especially because they're all Debian-based.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Any other distro moment(just use debian if you dont care its stable for everyone ik)

[–] Nutteman 3 points 1 year ago

Is that famous cappy-blappy name of gort???

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Unbothered. Moisturized. Happy. In My Lane. Focused. Flourishing.