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Catastrophic shutdown averted as McCarthy sides with Democrats over far right in his own party (www.the-independent.com)
submitted 11 months ago by Salamendacious to c/news
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Republicans avoid shutdown by cutting deal with Democrats over their own party’s hardliners

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[–] givesomefucks 64 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Headline makes it sound like it's done, this is just a temp budget:

Republicans now have 45 days to pass longer-term budget measures to operate the government for the 2024 year. Those budgets have already hit their own set of roadblocks in the House, and are destined to run up against a Democratic-controlled Senate and White House that will likely demand changes.

[–] Salamendacious 27 points 11 months ago

It's a continuing resolution. This is exactly what I've been expecting. I personally didn't think they'd pass a final budget.

[–] paddirn 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Just a 45 day stopgap and it’s not over, but hopefully Republicans begin to realize, “We can’t function with these people,” and start trying to move away from their hardliners. Doubtful it’ll happen, but one can always dream. That they didn’t actually let it go to a shutdown suggests that there’s Republicans who wanted to avoid a shutdown as much as Democrats and may be willing to compromise and reach a longer term deal, they’re not just trying to burn the whole place down.

[–] Salamendacious 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Matt Gaetz has been saying he intends to file a motion to vacate the speakership this week.

[–] buddascrayon 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Seriously why the fuck isn't that asshole in jail? He was fucking trafficking children.

[–] Salamendacious 5 points 11 months ago

I don't think I'll ever understand that either. An arrest looked inevitable and when the DOJ announced they weren't going to arrest him I was dumbstruck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Rules for thee, not for mee

[–] FlyingSquid 8 points 11 months ago

These motherfuckers could fund the government for the next century if they wanted to.

[–] thisisthelastonebtw 36 points 11 months ago (4 children)

What a misleading headline. Makes it sound like the Republicans did the hard work.

What is life? We are in the evil timeline.

[–] Salamendacious 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It didn't read that way to me. This could be the end of McCarthy as speaker because he worked with Democrats. Did you see the paragraph:

Jim McGovern, a Democrat from Massachusetts, offered a simple commentary as he left the floor following the vote: “We won.”

[–] thisisthelastonebtw 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The headline made it sound like the Republicans avoided it; that's all. You know most Republicans don't read anything more than a headline. :) I'm mostly frustrated with that is all. The context almost always leans differently.

Republicans avoid shutdown by cutting deal with Democrats over their own party’s hardliners

Any Republican who reads that, what do you think they read? I know what I think, and, unfortunately, as an observer of those people's reactions, I'm positive that's how they'll read it.

[–] Salamendacious 8 points 11 months ago

Well Republicans control the house so it was factually a Republican who sided with Democrats over the Republican freedom caucus.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

But now comes the speaker fight. And whoever becomes speaker gets the albatross of the biden impeachment around their neck.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Except like 15 mins ago Gaetz just said he’s gonna try to unseat McCarthy

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not my take away from the headline at all. Makes the GOP sound like they don't have their shit together so McCarthy had to go hat in hand to the Dems seeking actual adults capable of governing.

[–] jj4211 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, while most of the GOP might have their shit together, they have a crazy faction blocking them

In a way, it might just be possible that this marks a realization that they will have better results working in a bipartisan manner than trying to appease the nutjobs.

[–] thisisthelastonebtw 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How in the world can you say most of the GOP has their shit together when all they've done is support Trump? Block anything Democrat backed? I don't understand where you're coming from at all.

[–] jj4211 1 points 11 months ago

Have their shit together meaning they can actually function as a coherent group to achieve actually getting something done, whether I agree with them or not. When you toss the "Freedom Caucus" into the fray and if you refuse to work at all with democrats, then the party "does not have their shit together" insofar as they can't pass anything. To try to pick their own speaker they utterly struggled.

Here they wanted the government to keep functioning by and large, but a small contingent just wants to burn everything down. The fact that the larger population of GOP were willing to work with Democrats rather than try to appease the nutjob wing is evidence that they "have their shit together" enough to actually get something passed they wanted to get passed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Well technically they did work hard... at blocking anything possible to stop this shutdown, because a shutdown is good for a very few rich assholes

[–] Bootheal0179 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It’s all just theaterics and the republicans need more rehearsals before taking stage.

[–] Salamendacious 5 points 11 months ago

There's a lot of theater in politics but that's nothing new.

[–] twistypencil 4 points 11 months ago

True, but they can't win this, so either have to damage themselves over and over again, or grow up and be leaders of their constituents, which means explaining a little bit to them reality instead of blindly being pushed around by ignorant sheep