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Republicans avoid shutdown by cutting deal with Democrats over their own party’s hardliners

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[–] thisisthelastonebtw 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What a misleading headline. Makes it sound like the Republicans did the hard work.

What is life? We are in the evil timeline.

[–] Salamendacious 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It didn't read that way to me. This could be the end of McCarthy as speaker because he worked with Democrats. Did you see the paragraph:

Jim McGovern, a Democrat from Massachusetts, offered a simple commentary as he left the floor following the vote: “We won.”

[–] thisisthelastonebtw 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The headline made it sound like the Republicans avoided it; that's all. You know most Republicans don't read anything more than a headline. :) I'm mostly frustrated with that is all. The context almost always leans differently.

Republicans avoid shutdown by cutting deal with Democrats over their own party’s hardliners

Any Republican who reads that, what do you think they read? I know what I think, and, unfortunately, as an observer of those people's reactions, I'm positive that's how they'll read it.

[–] Salamendacious 8 points 1 year ago

Well Republicans control the house so it was factually a Republican who sided with Democrats over the Republican freedom caucus.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

But now comes the speaker fight. And whoever becomes speaker gets the albatross of the biden impeachment around their neck.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not my take away from the headline at all. Makes the GOP sound like they don't have their shit together so McCarthy had to go hat in hand to the Dems seeking actual adults capable of governing.

[–] jj4211 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, while most of the GOP might have their shit together, they have a crazy faction blocking them

In a way, it might just be possible that this marks a realization that they will have better results working in a bipartisan manner than trying to appease the nutjobs.

[–] thisisthelastonebtw 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How in the world can you say most of the GOP has their shit together when all they've done is support Trump? Block anything Democrat backed? I don't understand where you're coming from at all.

[–] jj4211 1 points 1 year ago

Have their shit together meaning they can actually function as a coherent group to achieve actually getting something done, whether I agree with them or not. When you toss the "Freedom Caucus" into the fray and if you refuse to work at all with democrats, then the party "does not have their shit together" insofar as they can't pass anything. To try to pick their own speaker they utterly struggled.

Here they wanted the government to keep functioning by and large, but a small contingent just wants to burn everything down. The fact that the larger population of GOP were willing to work with Democrats rather than try to appease the nutjob wing is evidence that they "have their shit together" enough to actually get something passed they wanted to get passed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Well technically they did work hard... at blocking anything possible to stop this shutdown, because a shutdown is good for a very few rich assholes