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The EU says X is the worst platform for disinformation | Just as it removes a way to report election misinformation::undefined

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[–] reddig33 113 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The election misinformation seems to be the point. Why else would someone bankroll Twitter/X?

[–] uberdroog 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This has been my thought the whole time. In general, just to put down the effective communication of the masses in real time, that is scary to a certain small group of people.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it's the worst for disinformation then it's the best for information, right? Right?

[–] grue 60 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

EU should block X. See how Lonnie responds to that.

Future headline: Lonboy threatens to sue EU

[–] ilickfrogs 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Twitter*

I refuse to let companies take ownership of letters. They already have everything else.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I simply call it Ex-Twitter - acknowledging the name change, but not simply adopting it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Metans 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Twatter

I know it doesn't have anything to do with the letter X, I just think it fits now more than ever.

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[–] Jonna 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We should all keep calling it Twitter and let Elon get pissed at getting dead-named.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (5 children)

"Remember, Free Speech is when I, and only I, can say whatever the hell I want!" - Elon Musk

How is twitter still standing? Mastodon is the way of the future

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I sometimes wonder how much it would take to get people to leave X en masse. Maybe if Elon was posting Nazi propaganda?

[–] Kage520 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Nope. I sent this article to my trumper friend and he said "yeah the eu is a horribly corrupt organization". If Elon promoted Nazi propaganda they would be excited and embrace that too.

Maybe if something else big came along and everyone was like "you're still using Xitter? Lol okay boomer" they might consider moving over. Maybe.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not even. Remember he was funding people like Andrew Tate thousands of dollars. Nothing is gonna get these people out unless they get charged to use twitter

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Honestly I'm surprised it didn't become a ghost town like Tumblr did after they banned porn.

[–] Asudox 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lots of them surely will migrate to Mastodon when Elon releases that fee bs. Honestly, we should thank Elon for that. Thanks to him, Mastodon will become mainstream soon.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It already was prior to Musk's takeover.

It's just always been a cesspool. A complete waste of human energy and time. And it never once turned a profit. An abject failure by every metric.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It already was prior to Musk’s takeover.

It's crazy how media pretends Twitter wasn't the biggest contributor to Trump's MAGA movement, being the most followed user on the site up until his fanatic followers stormed the US capitol. I mean did people already forget these dreadful years of "Trump tweeted" headlines every single day??? Twitter has been an enemy to democracy for many years.

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[–] NeoNachtwaechter 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And it never once turned a profit.

Not true.

Twitter was profitable at the time when that Elon guy bought it (and before, and some time after).

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We watching how daft Elon is in real time, and his fan boys and girls are still trying to tell us he's smart...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

One of my coworkers swears he's just the biggest troll and this is all some part of his masterplan.

[–] Soup 15 points 1 year ago

It’s because he’s wanted to make X a thing since 2000. Even if he was being a troll, it’s not a joke if he’s just making everyone miserable. That’s not humour, it’s an anti-social weirdo and his dipshit followers thinking that hurting other people is funny.

[–] PilferJynx 14 points 1 year ago

A 42 billion troll. He's King Clown in a hateful circus. Masterful.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Masterplan to accomplish what, exactly?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

He thinks this will somehow get Grimes to come back to him.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

No idea, he can never give me an answer about that.

[–] DeadNinja 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

..worst platform for disinformation..

Is that a double negative, or am I hallucinating ?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Its just very weirdly written

[–] espentan 6 points 1 year ago

English professor: It's impossible for a double positive to be negative.

Random student: Yeeeah, riiight..

[–] nyoooom 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Should be "worst platform at handling disinformation"

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When did we collectively decide techbro billionaires should be the arbiter of what is and isn't disinformation?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

When we decided to gather in their websites in large masses and ignore our common sense

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When we decided that freedom of speech was a core freedom, and the wealthiest people own the biggest megaphones. Musk's Twitter is just a reflection of the same system that protects the Murdochs, Chatham Asset Management, etc. The bar for "this speech is illegal" is extremely high in most first-world countries, at least unless your disinformation can be shown to harm important corporations (fraud) or rich people with really really good lawyers (defamation) or the justice system itself (perjury, filing false reports), it's basically impossible to fight. This weakness of the justice system was why everybody was happy to see amoral corporations like Twitter taking up the project pre-Musk.

Remember, the only people who managed to extract consequences for The Big Lie from the above organizations is Dominion Voting Systems, a huge corporation that could show damages.

As long as the facts of our shared reality are considered beneath protection unless they coincide with the financial interests of VIPs, shitty people with big megaphones will lie with impunity.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Musk probably sees this as a confirmation it's working as intended.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Not sure if this is the right place but I need to get off Twitter/X, I would love to use Mastodon but the hurdle feels bigger than Reddit to Lemmy. The Mastodon client feels uncomfortable to me for some reason, and I guess unlike reddit/lemmy where you have a group of people talking about specific topics, I am interested in following specific people on Twitter - a fraction of whom are on Mastodon. I don't want to support Musk or his platform but I'm struggling to find a replacement.

I guess if he starts charging for it the decision will be made for me 😅

[–] Sharan 9 points 1 year ago

Come to Mastodon. Welcome 😁

[–] Nesola 8 points 1 year ago

You could also use Ivory, it’s basically tweetbot but for mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Tusky is pretty damn good for Mastodon. Better than any Lemmy client I've tried.

[–] ArghZombies 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People say that picking a server for Mastodon isn't that important, but really I think it is. Because just a with Lemmy where you can view your Communities, Local and All it's the same on Mastodon - your server is the Local feed made up of all the people on that server. So you can just read the whole feed of everyone that way, and is it's a server based around a topic you like then it's a great place. But if you pick a server based around Crypto or Dance or Sport then you're going to have a dull time.

Yes you can find individual people, but it's a lot more fiddly to find people that aren't on your server. You kind of have to know who and where they are already.

That's why the fediverse works better for Lemmy than Mastodon IMO - because it's about whole topics than people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

People told me that I could pick any server and it wouldn't matter, but I noticed that not all the content in the communities I follow from other servers appear to me. It's confusing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I haven't used Twitter much in years really. But after switching to Lemmy during the reddit API debacle I thought I'd give it a go and am really enjoying it. I've set up a ton of filters to block out stuff I don't want to see, and joined a couple of instances for two different personas. I'm not using the official mobile client. On Android I use Tusky and Megalodon. Tusky is my daily driver and feels like how I remember the Twitter app from 7 or 8 years ago. Megalodon is nice for cross instance discovery, but has a couple of UI quirks that prevent me from using fully. My SO uses Ice Cubes on iOS and that looks pretty sweet. Personally I found the switch comparable to Lemmy. It took me a month or two to build up a good number of active people to follow to get to the stage of having an interesting feed. It also seems to have got a lot more active in the last week. When I have dropped into Twitter it's a dumpster fire on top of a cesspit. I don't think I could go back. I'd absolutely recommend giving Mastodon a go.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is completely unsurprising. Under the new "free speech" regime, X has been completely deluged with antisemitic, pro-Russia, and anti-democracy propaganda. It's no wonder that advertisers don't want to be associated with that type of content.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

"Goebbels was in favor of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you’re really in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of speech for precisely the views you despise. Otherwise, you’re not in favor of free speech" Noam Chomsky

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[–] lemmus 12 points 1 year ago

It’s a (re)public(an) town square.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Muskovite works in the service of Moscow.

[–] Treczoks 3 points 1 year ago

Just imagine one could complain about the last remaining posts of this dying platform!

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