That's great and imma let you finish but remember that decentralization is strength on the fediverse. Join or create other instances, join or create communities on other instances, thats our strength.

On the fediverse, instances come and go. I've seen big instances go down either permanently or temporarily, and ive also seen big communities decide they're turning off federation. The only way to be safe from that is to decentralize, so if something happens there's still something worth doing on the fediverse.

Besides that though, congratulations lemmy.world, I love to see the thrediverse Renaissance we're in, and nothing but love for the folks running this instance and the folks participating on it.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago (27 children)

Good. It is important to have different instances to distribute the load though. However, I hope there are not many people joining BeeHaw...

[–] AFKBRBChocolate 50 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I hope there are not many people joining BeeHaw…

I don't hope that, exactly, I just hope that the people who join understand what they're getting (and, more importantly, what they aren't). I fully support a community with a different goal than most, and their goal seems like a wholesome one. I personally think it's doomed to failure, but I support them giving it a try. They're barely part of the fediverse though.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree. That's the point of having different instances. Some of the original Lemmy instances had a very specific worldview and didn't want to hear much else. I'd prefer they stay there to live in their echo chamber and I leave them alone, than they come out and start demanding the rest of us bow to their authority.

The broader fediverse sort of works that way. There's a fediverse that's really locked down, the sort of in between, and there's the wild west, and the three coexist in different ways. I can disagree with them, but it's their sandbox and I have mine and in that way we can coexist on the same platform

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[–] TheFeatureCreature 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

There still some good instances that Beehaw is federated with, but my personal issue is that it feels very fragile. If a couple of bigots show up on other instances and the mods don't delete their posts right away, will Beehaw defederate from them? There is a line between protecting your users and barring them from accessing anything you don't approve of, and I think they need to figure out where they stand in regards to that line. Beehaw feels more like a small forum than a piece of something bigger.

Defederating because of raiding, harassment, bots, etc is 100% understandable but it should not be done lightly.

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[–] MicroWave 31 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Looks like beehaw.org is shedding users. They've lost about a thousand users since defederating from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works last week. Maybe a bunch of people weren't happy with that move.

[–] Ghostalmedia 24 points 2 years ago

They’re probably ok with that

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Also lemmy.world is extremely slow in pushing out messages to other instances, if at all. So leading the pack is not necessarily the best thing until you figure out scaling.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago

Yeah, they should really consider not accepting new users until that is figured out, honestly. There are plenty of servers out there that people can join at this point. Too much centralization in a decentralized system for my liking regardless of instance scaling.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, I've been missing a ton of comment replies from lemmy.world and it's frustrating. I am wondering if it's because they're still on 0.17.4 instead of 0.18.

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[–] AskThinkingTim 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Back in my day lemmy.ml was the biggest instance.

[–] tamtt 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Account age: 1 week

Yep checks out

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[–] GustavoM 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

More users does not ALWAYS mean a good thing.

[–] TWrecks 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You are correct, but it at least shows that we are attracting more users (albeit, that doesn't mean quality).

I believe its a positive thing though, as it shows that the "normies" are seriously considering alternatives; outside of us niche, nerds here for the tech and the anti-corpo mindset.

[–] MicroWave 17 points 2 years ago

Well said. A month ago, I couldn't even imagine leaving reddit because there was hardly a viable alternative.

[–] go_spurs_go 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just showed up here. We'll see how long I stay, but hoping this will be my social media fix each morning. If there are enough folks who feel the same, it will be.

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[–] Xylinna 17 points 2 years ago

You are correct and Lemmy.World and others will experience growing pains and will have their own share of issues but the positive of this is that more users means more content.

[–] JujuT 26 points 2 years ago (7 children)

lemmy.world is probably leading because it’s easy to sign up

[–] SolDaMan 20 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I mean, i would rather have an easy sign up then go through a shitty purity test like beehaw.org makes you go through.

[–] TheCookieButter 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I wrote 2 short paragraphs for the Beehaw entry and a week later was denied. By that point I was already on Lemmy.World.

I really don't know what else they wanted me to say to be honest. I'd be interested in seeing some accepted applications but seems excessive.

[–] apochryphal_triptych 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The very same thing happened to me. It's amazing to me how fast Lemmy.world has grown in the few weeks I've been here!

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[–] SolDaMan 25 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Hello All, First time poster here. I would just like to say that i tried signing up for beehaw.org but they have some kind of purity test that reminds me of Reddit. Don’t ever sign up for beehaw, that is going to be one hell of a drama filled instance.

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[–] egeres 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's awesome to see the growth, but as a small question, why don't all the instances upgrade to version 0.18? Maybe that version isn't stable enough?

[–] kiwifoxtrot 24 points 2 years ago (8 children)

0.18 removed checks and balances to limit bot signups. lemmy.world won't upgrade until this is in place.

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[–] TeaHands 21 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I joined world because it was the little one, with like 100 active users according to the stats on the signup page. Hmph.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Good time to appreciate the lack of dominant centrality here compared to mastodon.

Mastodon's flagship instance run by the BDFL, mastodon.social, has ~10 times the monthly active users of the next biggest instance.

Here, there isn't really a flagship instance, as the devs don't want their instance to be anything more than the one they happen to run, and it's not the biggest, and the biggest is independent of the lemmy dev team and isn't even that much bigger than the others.

[–] Ghostalmedia 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

That might also be a response to what users were asking for. Signing up for a server confused the shit out of everyone. It was to the point where Mastodon’s confusing onboarding process was frequently being covered by major media outlets across the globe.

Instead of continuing to iterate on sever selection experience, they just started to say “fuck it” and started dumping everyone into .social.

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[–] Solo 10 points 2 years ago

It does appear that lemmy.world is heading in the same direction of mastodon.social though.

[+] Machefi 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

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[–] AlmightySnoo 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

This dominance worries me a little.

I don't think there's much to worry about. Having large general instances is perfectly healthy and good for the Fediverse as that's where people new to the Fediverse will land.

I predict that large niche instances will start popping up, one example already being programming.dev, and that's simply because there are domains where you might need extra customization.

For example, one can imagine a mathematics & physics oriented instance where LaTeX is available, or a chess-only instance where you'd have things like chessboard.js to allow members to post chess diagrams etc... Basically a return to what we had with old-school forums except this time the instances would be federated.

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[–] MicroWave 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Taking lessons from mastodon, I think server costs can really affect an instance's decision of how many users and how fast to register them. Can't blame them. lemmy.world just happens to have a pro admin who also runs mastodon.world.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I'm reading from kbin.social. Does kbin get included in the stats?

[–] matt 14 points 2 years ago

No, these stats are specifically how many users are active that have their accounts on Lemmy.world.