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[–] dojan 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"The market regulates itself."

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Survival of the fittest!*

*Richest with the least amount of ethics.

[–] bighi 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The amount of ethics of any leader is irrelevant in capitalism. The system itself demands the creation of monopolies and constant growth. If you try to be a good person, some other company will “win the race” and take you out of the competition one way or another.

Expecting or demanding ethics of people is trying to fix the wrong problem, while the solution is toppling the entire system.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's more than that - once you grow to the point where management don't all have personal relationships, how do you decide who to promote?

Metrics. Meaning, money minus controversies... So basically, everyone with decision making power is incentivized to push profits as far as they can without crossing that ever shifting line where the public gets pissed at them...

At all levels, there's a selection pressure to find the people who push the boundaries as far as they to maximize short term profits without drawing attention to how the sausage is made...

With that as the basis for all promotions across all industries, is there any surprise we are where we are, with the system cannibalizing itself now that there's no new markets to expand into?

[–] bighi 1 points 1 year ago

All of that has been predicted by Marx since the 19th century. And he already created a better system.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] MajorHavoc 56 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m an Apple customer but this is straight up wrong. Non-compete clauses this broad are ridiculous and practically stop ex-employees working anywhere they’re actually skilled to work. It quite literally ends someone’s career after their tenure.

If you’re expertise is SoC design and implementation, to be contractually restricted from working anywhere else that does SoC-related business is effectively kicking you out of the very industry and job pool you’re capable of working. Your mobility is totally stifled.

These kinds of restrictive covenants need to be outlawed or at least be limited to a short time frame no more than six months, requiring ex employers to pay the ex employee during this time if made redundant or fired or requiring the incumbent employer to pay the new employee during this time until they’re legally able to work again.

Hopefully this case goes against Apple favour and sets a strong precedent against absurd non compete clauses like this.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Denmark, non compete clauses like these require the old employer to pay you for the period you're not allowed to compete.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Darn that Denmark and its sensible employment laws and strong economy (especially considering GDP per capita).

[–] bighi 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Non-compete clauses should be illegal (or done like in Denmark, like the example of our fellow commenter here)

[–] CoffeeAddict76 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’re illegal in the province I live in. They were all voided a few years ago.

[–] bighi 1 points 1 year ago

They're illegal in the country I live in. I mostly meant they should be illegal basically everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Enormous corporation behaves like an enormous corporation”

[–] shami 8 points 1 year ago

I was about to say. Basically like every massive corporation these days

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

Water is wet, I guess

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not Apple, any big business. Are you new to capitalism little one?

[–] sebinspace 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Was going to say, fuck Apple, but if you think they’re alone in this, you are obscenely naive

[–] set_secret 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

we can still say fuck apple

[–] sebinspace 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] set_secret 0 points 1 year ago

you're were 'going to say' but your 'going' preface implied that you didn't actually, even though you did write the text 'fuck apple'. semantics, however I don't think we should ever miss an opportunity to say fuck apple. Fuck Apple.

upon re reading your text I now understand you were using the term 'going to say' in a colloquial sense not a literal one, so I misinterpreted the comment sry.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, are the other ones accused?

[–] dynamojoe 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe not in this article but this is a perpetual accusation for just about any large and successful corporation to deal with. Using "Apple" gets headlines, but you've probably read similar accusations against Alphabet, Microsoft, Epic, EA, John Deere, etc....

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (32 children)

I think it goes back to Rockefeller and Standard Oil. Buy or squash competition until you are the only one standing. Certainly Bill Gates did this and quite aggressively at times.

[–] Nogami 0 points 1 year ago

Any big company that doesn’t do this is doing it wrong. You may not like it but that’s the way things work. But all big companies will eventually fall given enough time and management changes.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Nothing to see here. Apple doing apple things.

[–] brlemworld 12 points 1 year ago

They killed DarkSky. We need to break up Apple.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Each day, I read people discovering neoliberalism. It amazes me how naive people are.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 7 points 1 year ago

Buy it or kill it. Every big corp ever.

[–] bemenaker 6 points 1 year ago

Shocked Pikachu