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Leaked Microsoft Email Reveals Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Really Wants to Buy Nintendo -::Xbox boss Phil Spencer outlined his desire to buy Nintendo in a leaked email sent in 2020.

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Y'all remember anti-trust laws? Good times

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

Laws? That's for poor people!

[–] foggy 91 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is Nintendo even remotely interested in being purchased?

They've existed since 1889. They pretty much decided to stop following the industry and just keep doing their own thing back when the wii came out.

Something in me doubts they are strapped for cash. They own Mario, Pokemon, and a lot more. And you don't make ridiculous consoles unless you're in a position to gamble.

[–] Bluefruit 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The IPs alone are gold let alone the games they make. Pokemon imo has been subpar for a while and it still prints money. Yea i dont see them selling anytime soon.

[–] Mikelius 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Worth more than gold. Pokemon is the single highest grossing IP of ALL TIME

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres 4 points 1 year ago

Pokémon? With the poké and the mon? https://youtu.be/_kUG-YDcLuw

I guess that clip is a little dark now that we know what Bill Cosby did to women. And we don’t even know what happened to Mortimer Ichabod Marker.

[–] hansl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For media. I thought the highest grossing general IP was Hello Kitty.

[–] Mikelius 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe, I found this image saying it's still above Hello Kitty, but not sure about the validity - https://imgur.com/ZEORgkV

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Interesting list. Supprised Lego is so low.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hot take: the Pokémon games have always been trash, and the version locked exclusives in each generation are day 1 dlc

[–] PoopingCough 26 points 1 year ago

and the version locked exclusives in each generation are day 1 dlc

I can see how it would be seen this way, but imo the intention from the beginning wasn't that people would buy both/all three versions per generation, it was to encourage people to trade with each other. Which absolutely worked when it came out. It was a totally new idea that definitely helped sell more people on the games, because they could connect with friends and trade or battle, with later gens adding even more features for when you connected.

I could see making the dlc argument these days, but at this point you could also argue it's just out of tradition.

[–] GhostsAreShitty 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't remember ever enjoying a Pokémon game. I think it's for people who get a dopamine hit from collecting.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

For me they were always just fun little JRPGs. I usually don't go collecting all Pokémon. I just have my roster of monsters I regularly use in fights and level up.

[–] Cheesus 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nintendo has $15B in cash and the company is worth $51B.

[–] NikkiDimes 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And Microsoft has twice that cash-on-hand if they wanna get wacky with it and break some anti-trust laws that aren't enforced anymore.

[–] andysteakfries 22 points 1 year ago

The Japanese government would not allow one of the country's most cherished brands sold off to one of the worst stewards to gaming's intellectual property value.

[–] joel_feila 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well as a publicly traded company they are open to hostile take overs. But we have laws for that. Also japan probably has some way to stop it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The emails also indicate that they know exactly how well loved they would be amongst the public for taking that route. Which is to say they'd join Unity and X for publicity fuckups of their own making.

[–] TOModera 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Quote from the article:

However, Spencer outlined a number of blocks on the merger, including the fact Nintendo seemed uninterested in selling up. Nintendo is “sitting on a big pile of cash”, Spencer said, and was apparently happy with its current position. As a result, Spencer said he couldn’t “see an angle” on a buyout in the short term, adding: “I don’t think a hostile action would be a good move… so we are playing the long game."

So its never happening and it's at best delusional. Got it.

[–] schmidtster 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Better article.

It’s much worse, they are buying up shares to take them over, so it’s been happening for a while.

"I say "until recently" as our former MS BoD member ValueAct has been heavily acquiring shares of Nintendo and I've kept in touch with [ValueAct CEO] Mason Morfit as he's been acquiring. It's likely he will be pushing for more from Nintendo stock which could create opportunities for us.

"Without that catalyst I don't see an angle to a near term mutually agreeable merger of Nintendo and MS and I don't think a hostile action would be a good move so we are playing the long game. But our BoD has seen the full writeup on Nintendo (and Valve) and they are fully supportive on either if opportunity arises as am I."

Weird how the OC article doesn’t even have that full quote.

[–] TOModera 19 points 1 year ago

Yikes, thanks for sharing. Maybe it's time for some Nintendo shareholders to ensure it doesn't become an annoying add on for Xbox. Or not, they may just take the cheques.

[–] Illuminostro 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Video games? Never played one. I play the only real game: "Gittin' That Cash." They got it, I want it."

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres 28 points 1 year ago

It’s hard to imagine a worse company to buy Nintendo than Microsoft. They don’t even use the same spot for the A button.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please tell me they aren’t going to strip the soul out of the last game company that is doing something different. #LeaveNintendoAlone

[–] Someguy89 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What are they doing different besides suing every living being that uses their name without consent and never having a sale on 10 year old games? Lol

Edit: guess no one can take a joke. That nostalgia hits hard lol

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

They don't try to put as much hardware as possible into their consoles just to allow developpers to skip the optimising part of gamedev.

They manage to make games that are fun to play without insane graphics.

[–] fuggadihere 22 points 1 year ago (11 children)

That would be the end of Nintendo.

All the MS gaming studios acquisitions often end up with MS running them into the ground sooner than later.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why wouldn't he, no one's stopped M$ monopoly building lately. Good luck getting Nintendo though, it's Japans Disney in regard to both local culture and high powered lawyering and suit happy executives that will jump on the chance to loose their lawyers to earn their retainer fees.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah Sure. I Bet there are many people who want to buy Nintendo.

[–] Th3D3k0y 4 points 1 year ago

I sent them an acquisition form with 5 dollars in cash, but they said no and sent me a bill for 5 more dollars.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They probably just want the mario IP

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And that would make the Switch the last console I bother buying.

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