The next two weeks, to a month... is going to be a VERY INTERESTING time for reddit.
Knock on wood, lemmy is going strong, and I have been enjoying the content, and conversations here much better than I have been on reddit.
this post was submitted on 24 Jun 2023
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I had heard of lemmy but not checked it out until this debacle made it clear that jettisoning reddit was the right move. It's been a lot of fun so far. It reminds me of the earlier days of the internet, which is a breath of fresh air.
The culture on reddit has been clicheed for a long time now. At least people stopped saying 'the narwhal bacons at midnight', and 'and my axe' is only ironic now, but the pun threads, the Ouija chains, the silly automods and bots - I had enough of that. Also it's absurd to try to comment on a post that has 6,500 or whatever replies already.
What would make me hard quit a thread was when somebody would comment a quote from a show that was actually relevant & funny to the topic at hand, but then it would create an endless chain of reply comments of completely irrelevant quotes from the same show. Like, ok we get it, you got the joke, please stop.
Lemmy is capturing some of the early energy that Reddit once had. It’s cool.
Sadly Reddit is back to it's normal numbers and the subs are being activated again, so nothing will change for the better
I think it is very plausible that the numbers only appear to be back to normal. I agree probably nothing will change but at the very least I am not using reddit any more - and I feel like I have seen a similar sentiment from other users of Lemmy/kbin.
Yeah, I think at this point, regardless of what happens on Reddit, Lemmy/KBin seem to have a decently active base and speaking only for myself, I'm not planning on even lurking on Reddit ... the most I'll do is hit a link that I find on Google or that gets linked elsewhere.
For me, there is plenty of new content popping up in the Fediverse to keep me interested, I'd just like too see more people commenting. Then, I realize I need to be the change I want to see, so am attempting to become more active than I was on Reddit and actively engage in more conversations (ex: this post :-D ).
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Lemmy/kbin has what 220k to reddits 800m
In all fairness- I kind of want a bunch of the reddit users... to STAY on reddit, away from lemmy.
The conversation quality recently on reddit has went WAAAY down.
And the conversation quality in the fediverse is fantastic!
That isn't the way the Internet works. If the 220k lemmy users were the most active out of the 800m, then reddit is basically dead.
Is it really that high? That's pretty impressive for what has it been, 2 weeks?
I know a lot of people have said this, but I'm thinking once the 3rd party apps go dark we might get another spike here
Lemmy/kbin is over 1m now. Growing at about 200-300k per day over the last week or so.
The 1m+ figure is mostly bots flooding open instances though, real figures are probably closer to 200-300k
True, but reddit's portion of bots is also massive. Anecdotally I saw bots constantly in reddit's comments. I have yet to see one in the fediverse so far.
I saw a tl;dr bot yesterday and I was so surprised! Most of the time I hate bots but that one is actually pretty valuable I think.
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Reddit lost some of it's most committed users, though. It's also solidly not 'cool', not that it was ever cool-cool, I mean that it's reputation has been harmed among their target market.
I wonder if Reddit will ever launch/acquire-and-rebrand a spin-off, like how Instagram is where younger people went to get away from Facebook.
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Personally I think things have changed for the better, I’ve been waiting for a Reddit alternative for years and only found kbin through the blackout. Seems we’ve got sustainable numbers and a decent community.
A small win but still a win.
Wait and see what happens when the third party apps don't work. Sure some will install the crappy official app being forced upon them but the cool kids will be looking for the next big thing.
Here's to hoping all the narcissistic types who lash out at anything that even slightly inconveniences them (cough Reddit protests cough) stay there.
Social media sites go in cycles. I think we're nearing if not the end then the regression of sites like Reddit, Twitter, and Facebook.
I'm enjoying Lemmy, but I think perhaps it needs to do more to differentiate itself from Reddit by being better in some major way if users are going to move to it. Right now it's essentially just decentralised Reddit, but if it develops in the right way, that could be enough. I think it depends on how easy it is to find and filter content, contribute and avoid seeing the things or people you don't want to, as well as what kind of communities grow around major instances.
I would rather have less content and a better user base, personally. As long as there is continual modest growth and sustainability.
What they do there can stay there, imo.
It might be back to normal numbers, but that's until the API charges kick in and apps like Infinity stop working or start not to be fre?
It’s not even normal numbers, if you look at ads traffic (the real money maker) that one remains down from before the protest.
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I just wish everyone would quit trying to turn this into Reddit. We left Reddit because we don't like what it is/is becoming. Let's not rush to make this an identical copy, ya know?
I think the issue is that reddit was the internet go-to for discussions and mindless scrolling... and porn. It filled the need.
These other sites are getting members wanting to fill that need, but reddit is all we have to go off on how to do it as its the only one that did it.
I'm curious about the normal numbers thing. I left the website (I needed to anyway, was obsessively checking it in my free time) and I figure there must be at least a few like me. So if that's true, how could it be back to original numbers after such a fiasco?
Most users don't know a fiasco happened, or care, really. You gotta remember your average user doesn't comment at all and really just scrolls while upvoting posts every once in a while. Their engagement is far more casual.
We’ve got a populated Lemmy now.
Here’s a question. Who’s monitoring Reddit’s traffic and activity other than Reddit? What incentive do they have to be honest about those numbers?
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True and im gonna be happily settling in on here watching the drama.
Splez is obviously incredibly incompetent - "New Reddit" is been a complete disaster technically and design-wise. It's also amazing how they have a top 20 website worldwide and haven't figured out how to make a profit from it, while meanwhile companies like facebook make money like they're printing it.
Extra credit for being angry at your most loyal fans for 'using your platform for free'
People make fun of me when I tell them I am still mad about when ElementaryOS pulled the exact same thing. But I am, I'll never use their product because the people who make it revealed who they truly are. I took note of them and will never use anything they are ever involved with. Now spez is on that list, too.
Seriously, all they had to do was let users rebel by making weird content. People love rebelling and making weird ass content. Most of them would have stuck around just for that.
Well, Facebook makes money hand-over-fist by exploiting user data and creating a Panopticon-style advertising machine.
I don't think reddit is ethically above that though, just not very good at figuring out how to do it.
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Sure I mean yeah fuck Reddit, but blur out the company name in this and it applies to 8/10 tech companies lol
It’s a feature of tech entrepreneurship. You go until it’s boring and repeat. The problem is these fucks made so much money they don’t need to do shit. They won life and now they’re trying to take it to the next level. Even worse, they try to appeal to the masses as “regular people.” Lol
Now name me 8/10 tech companies whose CEO actively denigrates the entire user base and mod team. Musk doesn’t even meet this level of fuckery.
The precise outline of the dysfunction varies a little bit, even within a particular BigCo. Usually it boils down to managers who don't know how people work, and middle-to-upper management living in a reality of their own invention.
Rumor has it that Huffman is designing deep sea subs now.
We can only dream.
Maybe they could run a convoy of vehicles to Steve’s home and threaten him with destruction if there is no leadership change and see how that goes.
Joined blind just to follow on this. Sounds like too many managers, not enough leaders
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