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As title states.

But also, can I get some advice from the community? After a long while, I finally lifted the veil over my eyes and came to terms with the fact that I am totally and unapologetically homosexual. But I've been married for a long time so we're trying to make it work and just extend ourselves to polyamory. I've booted up a dating profile, but should I include that I am a baby gay? Do I include my open relationship? Or are those things to talk about in person? Any advice?

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have used dating apps and there's a fundamental problem with them. They have all been monetized past the point of usability.

Say somebody matches you; you get a notification that you received a like, but can't view who did so unless you shell out $20-40 for a week. So the notification just pulls you back to the app for no benefit.

So your only real option for use is to just like as many people as possible in the hopes that one of them has liked you already, so you can send a message. But don't think "Well I'll just like the people I like and it will work out"

See most of these apps will use your "looking for" info to make a list of "people we think you'll like". Some of them are real accounts. Many are payed to play along and then ghost you. All of them are locked behind additional payments for messages or even matching in the first place.

Unless you are willing to pay the premium tier for access to what we're basic features on a free a decade ago, it's just not worth your time.

[–] Jackthelad 13 points 1 year ago

Another issue with not paying is that the algorithm will eventually push you further down the list and barely show you to anyone after the first week or two, leading you to believe that no one is interested in you, when in reality it's just that you're not being shown to anyone.

Not good for your self-esteem, really.

[–] MIDItheKID 24 points 1 year ago

I met my Wife on tinder 7 years ago and we have been married for 4 now. From what I'm told, that was the golden age of dating apps, and they have gotten awful. It's all bots, and people trying to sell only fans subscriptions. It's a bummer because the concept was good, but once people figure out how to exploit the app for money, it's over.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Within the last 3-5 years they took a massive nosedive off the cliff and right into the "completely plunder our users" pool. They remove useful features that made it easier to find a partner you're interested in and they all copied tinders "success" by removing what set them apart in favor of all being identical "swipe only" apps.

Some sites even delved further into the depths of their sales teams depravity and added streaming functions so now you have sites like POF where there's an entire ecosystem of people that are only there to stream and make money off of desperate guys...

It became a disgusting money gab and unfortunately for me as I don't have local options to meet people, I've backed out. I'd say if you're not a super desirable person then save yourself the headache/heartache and just avoid them.

[–] Cryophilia 6 points 1 year ago

Well that fucking sucks to hear, my plan was to get back into dating next year after a good 5 year hiatus.

[–] orangeNgreen 12 points 1 year ago

Hello.

I met my wife on a dating app about 7 years ago. We’ve been married for about 4 years.

What you put on your profile depends, in large part, on what you want to get out of it. I was looking for a long term, committed partner, that could one day lead to marriage. So I wanted to be as honest and open as possible about who I was and what I was looking for.

I think, at the very least, it would be respectful to state that you are married so that you are not leading anyone on. Just remember they are real people on the other end of the app. Be mindful of their feelings, and perhaps consider what you would want to know if you were someone else reading your profile.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The only experience I've ever had that rivals the intense soulsucking of dating apps was applying for work as a fresh highschool graduate during a recession.

Just for context: I'm actually decently eligible by the traditional metrics... nice job, nice place, nice face. Shit still sucks even with tailwinds at your back. I admire anyone with the fortitude to stick to these apps because they tore my ass down and then some!

My takeaway was simple: life's too short to waste waiting for someone else to complete you. I uninstalled those apps and have been happily single ever since ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've used a few.

The only one that ever led to meeting someone in person was Grindr, though, and it's pretty much just hookups nothing more (which sucks beyond the short amount of fun). Most people who match with me on more traditional apps like Tinder or even POF never respond when I message them, or immediately unmatch/block me.

[–] PreventFalls 2 points 1 year ago

I recently made a Fetlife account and actually looking forward to some meetups where I’m soon to be moving to. A friend recommended this to me as she’s having far better luck meeting people this way and can explore some new things. The negative part is the messages from men who don’t take the time to read profiles, but messages can be ignored and people can be blocked. It’s the meetups that seem to be beneficial for some people.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I use a dating app whenever I want to remind myself that I'm a fat, ugly, worthless human being that will probably never touch a woman again. Works quite well.

[–] myfavouritename 9 points 1 year ago

Some advice that is related to polyamory, but not dating apps.

Do your polyamory homework before creating a dating app profile. There are a lot of emotional pitfalls that people in the same situation have fallen into. I thought I was ready when I went down that path. Looking back on it now, I really should have taken more time to untangle my life before.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I met my wife on a dating site, though I had an assist from a mutual friend.

My biggest takeaways were:

  1. Don't expect instant and constant results. You can go weeks in between meaningful matches, and at some point you will actually tap out the "market" and there will be no one new for you to see in the app.

  2. Be selective, but not demanding. Someone having a less-than-stellar profile may just mean they are bad at writing about themselves, not that they are a boring or unpleasant person.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Definitely be open about being married. They don't need your life story up front, but you save a lot of time on doomed conversations if they start off knowing that. I'm not sure about any homosexual apps, but back when I used it PoF and OKC had options to specify things like that in your profile so people could filter by your relationship status.

[–] Num10ck 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

PoF = Plenty of Fish. Its what worked for me.

[–] guy_threepwood 2 points 1 year ago

Not sure what PoF is like these days but last I heard (a few years ago to be fair) they would ban you if you said you were polyamorous and point you towards Ashley Madison, since they were a little bit too religious to even be nice about it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

While not specifically a dating app, I did meet my now wife on a hike organized through meetup.com. I think a lot of people use it to find partners and the great part is that anyone you meet has at least one thing in common with you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I mostly found that dating apps made me want to eat a bullet. (I'm fine now... not being on dating apps)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Met my wife through a dating app. I was just honest about who I was, what my own shortcomings were, and the kind of person that interests me. Was indifferent to short-term or long-term preferences. Only got a a very small number of hits, but they were much more on the mark as far as I was concerned than if I just went to a bar and tried to meet people. I didn’t try to push myself or anyone I met into anything heavier than food or a flick, and just let the friendship grow into whatever she was comfortable with. When I was bored, I’d ask her if she wanted to meet up for lunch or something. That was it.

I think it helped that, while lonely, I was perfectly fine being without a partner at that time. I felt happy with my life, and I didn’t want to give anything up to make someone else happy. You gotta love yourself first before loving anyone else, otherwise it just isn’t fair to anybody.

[–] IphtashuFitz 4 points 1 year ago

Met my wife on eHarmony about 15 years ago. Been happily married for 11 now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm also married from tinder. It worked great for me. I thought that you got out of it what you were looking for, but maybe I was just lucky.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 3 points 1 year ago

I've been married for 25 years so I predate dating apps. But I would make sure being poly is really something you both want, because I have found all the poly people I know have had their relationships fail no matter how secure they are in them and in being poly. I think you have relationship work to do before considering an app.