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[–] [email protected] 147 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Salaries should by law be capped at max 10 times the lowest

[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 months ago

Careful, you might be starting to make too much sense!

[–] c0mbatbag3l 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't Japan have a system like that? The difference in the lowest and highest paid employee can only be so many thousands different?

[–] sheogorath 53 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yep, my friend works in a Japanese company and his CEO only makes 3x his salary.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It’s unfortunate that it also requires you to live within shooting range of North Korea and China. Because Japan is a nice vacation spot.

[–] Shard 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget appallingly long working hours.

[–] ikidd 30 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Oh, and don't be not Japanese

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[–] PR3CiSiON 30 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Then they'd just get two jobs at the same company, and get two salaries or some other loophole the lawmakers planned for the whole time.

[–] WaxedWookie 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Preferable to 319 jobs I'd say.

You people see the fuckery, shrug your shoulders and say "eh - just let them get away with it".

Fuck that, and fuck them - don't be conned into emptying your pockets to spare them the trouble of robbing you.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It probably will bankrupt him. But only because he built his business on the basis of exploiting employees. He won't make money if he doesn't do that. Which of course means he shouldn't be in business.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He is only CEO. Ford going to zero will only sting, it cannot bankrupt him.

Your point remains.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's always one of the two with this companies, it's either "we're making millions" or "we're going under" there's no inbetween.

[–] IndiBrony 50 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Often both at the same time!

[–] TheMagicalTimonini 23 points 9 months ago

"Great job team! We've increased our profits more than ever before! Now we need your help more than ever to increase profits even further. Unfortunately we cannot afford to pay our employees more, because of the great investmemts we need to make to keep increasing our profits!"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

The beauty of Hollywood accounting spreading to other industries. Ford Motor Company sells their cars for an on book loss after sales incentives like sub-prime financing through Ford Credit. Ford Credit then makes a profit due to interest payments thus wiping out the loss on the vehicle sale.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Looks like we found one job that should be automated by AI to save Ford 21 million dollars a year.

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[–] ViewSonik 63 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you make $100,000 for 40 years straight that is $4M. This dude made $21M in a single year. Ford’s share buyback program in 2022 totaled $484M. GM’a share buyback program totaled $3.4B in the past twelve months. We live in a fucked up world. Meanwhile, Ford/GM/Stellantis employees cannot afford to even buy the vehicles they make or feed themselves decent food.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 9 months ago (1 children)

CEOs need to take pay cuts. They earn too much and don't provide enough value for their pay.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

For context, this research paper was also pre-pandemic.

On average, CEO salaries jumped about 30% since this research was released. Here is an updated article by the EPI EPI Research

Also for context - on 1965, average CEO-to-worker salary ratio was 20:1, and in 1985 it was 59:1.

Not it's almost 400:1.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Looks like while all of Chris's brothers got in to comedy his cousin Jim decided to become a laughing stock of a person instead. You did it all wrong, Jimbo.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Maybe he never watched Tommy Boy.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Just broke my brain a little bit, that crazy!

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well yeah? If his workers make 66k how is he going to make 23 mil this year?

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago

Read "Bullshit Jobs" by David Graeber guys. It's really worth it!

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is this Guy related to Chris Farley? I definitely see some resemblance.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

Holy schnikies!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago

Total revolution needed. Workers that do the real thing barely can feed their mouth, while those useless management ceo got huge cut

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hope the cost of living helps offset that.. what company has been stealing your labor from you?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Big Lots, worst pay to effort ratio of anywhere I've ever worked. Working harder than I ever have for less than I ever have until I find something else.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

That sucks smelly ass, sorry to hear that, maybe try and organize once you have another job lined up? I'll never forget working the morning shift at hardes, literally the most stressful job I have ever had, for the least pay I have ever made. I got a job at a factory and made twice the salary, but did a quarter of the work, and I had to hear the people I work with denigrate fastfood workers wanting to raise the minimum wage to $10 an hour, cause they thought they worked so much harder and only made $12 an hour. They pit us against eachother while eating caviar from fishes that are going extinct because they are actively poisoning every aspect of our society and our world simultaneously and living in opulence that make the Kings of old look modest. Shits gotta give...

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[–] andy_wijaya_med 25 points 9 months ago

No one should earn that kind of money period.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (21 children)

Why are these posts specifically aimed at car company CEOs?

Are they begging for money in Congress again ?

Is this an anticar thing ?

Are they in union négociations ?

[–] Donebrach 58 points 9 months ago

The American autoworkers union is currently striking due to stalled contract negotiations.

[–] CatZoomies 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

To add this for posterity, there is an additional component to the U.S. autoworkers union striking. In 2008 during the global financial crisis (with things like robosigning foreclosures, predatory loans with ballooning interest rates, etc.), some U.S. automakers were asking for government bailouts, which eventually were granted. These bailouts were entirely taxpayer funded. Now the automakers are refusing to meet union contract negotiations. Automakers not paying employees cost-of-living, or frankly, just salary increases is upsetting, but the additional hypocrisy of U.S. tax-paying citizens bailing out these companies with their own money in 2008, and then not having the companies return some of the wealth in 2023 is enraging.

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Forgot to add that when the automakers were begging for government bailouts, the automakers had to take away worker pensions and some benefits to "protect the system". In 2023, the U.S. autoworkers union is fighting to get those benefits back for the workers.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

How could you be so heartless? How is he supposed to afford his second super yacht?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Ford has 186,000 employees. His entire salary, divided amongst every employee, would be $112.90.

He's certainly overpaid - like pretty much all CEOs - but this is a bad example.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago (11 children)

Its called juxtaposition my guy, Ford also spent almost half billion on stock buybacks last year which could have been used to give every Ford Employee a $2500 bonus to share their profits, but instead they used it to buy back stocks...

[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago

And buying back the stock has the effect of making the stock price go up. And guess who gets the most stock? The CEO and C suite. They give themselves huge raises by doing this and it's perfectly legal :(

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[–] nyctre 20 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Sure, but Ford made a profit of 10 billion last year according to google. That means that they can give every single one of those 186k people a 6000$ raise and still be left with almost 9 billion in profit.

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[–] BackOnMyBS 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm with y'all on this, but demonizing a CEO misses a lot of context. While I agree that billionaires are selfish narcissistic people that couldn't care less about their employees, this CEO isn't a dictator operating in a socio-political vacuum. He needs to do what he is doing, or he gets replaced by another selfish narcissistic jerk that will abuse the employees.

The real issue is our system that creates and encourages these people to maintain and exacerbate these inequalities. We need more worker solidarity, more unions, and more organization among the lower classes to use our power to demand what we want. Otherwise, they will pull the strings that control the system to get what they want.

Additionally, I think rather than just demonizing the CEO, a person that could be easily replaced, we should praise the workers as well. It's a loving approach that feels better than hate, it's founded in collective principles, and it also celebrates their collective efforts which could encourage other workers to do the same.

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