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I also had no idea the top portion of the Starship Enterprise could separate like that. That was pretty sweet.

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[-] [email protected] 70 points 8 months ago

Idk John DeLancie has that "Tim Curry" energy where he chews the scenery well and is fun to watch but wasn't much a fan of Season 1 Q.

It gets better.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

I agree. It got unexpectedly trippy and weird at times, which was a pleasant surprise. He just came across really cornbally. I could imagine him maybe growing on me.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago
[-] Sunforged 7 points 8 months ago

Report back once you encounter him a few more times.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

His best line: "Eat any good books lately?"

[-] [email protected] 64 points 8 months ago

Hot take: you don't fully appreciate Q until you've watched all the episodes he's in. That includes the ones in Deep Space Nine, Voyager, and My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.

[-] CADmonkey 31 points 8 months ago

Don't forget his cameo in Breaking Bad

[-] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

For some reason I feel compelled to up-boop the reference to MLP 🤔😅

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[-] FrickAndMortar 59 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I hated him in the first couple of episodes too; but when TNG started, I felt like everything was overly dramatic. Picard bellowing out heavy-handed soliloquies, Worf growling and gnashing his teeth, Riker swaggering around pretending to be Kirk from the old days… things settle down pretty quickly though, and the characters become less two-dimensional.

As for Q specifically, he’s not around a whole lot, but he makes an appearance or two per season maybe. He ends up more curious about humanity than being adversarial against humanity, but he still sometimes just throws a monkey-wrench into everything for his own amusement or to test a theory, once in a while.

Stick with it, it’s a really good show.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

When you see Riker grow his beard, you'll know the series has matured.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

For me it's when Geordi becomes chief engineer, like God intended.

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[-] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago

You're supposed to kinda hate Q. He plays a recurring role here and there throughout the series, but not a central one.

The first season of TNG is a bit rough; it definitely improves.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Season two also isn't the greatest. But its got some solid stories that do affect things later.

Mostly I just can't stand Pulaski

[-] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

I don't like her either, but I would say that's not because Muldaur is a bad actress, or because she was a bad character.

For example, her being a dick to Data really helped his character growth. She was abrasive but it really helped TNG grow its beard.

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago

Your supposed to hate Q thats part of the fun. Picard hates him

[-] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

I'm not sure Picard actively hates him. However, I do think his reaction is basically the Picard facepalm jpg whenever he interacts with Q.

[-] CodexArcanum 14 points 8 months ago

I'm pretty sure the Picard face palm is a shot from S3 episode "Deja Q". He literally is facepalming at Q.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I think to Picard, Q is just this buffoon with god powers and chooses to use them purely for wind ups. He knows he can’t do jack to stop him but scolds him at every opportunity.

I would have loved one character to just disappear on a massive bender with Q for a while and come back totally fried but just slot back into their spot on the ship

[-] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

but scolds him at every opportunity.

Which is exactly why Q keeps doing it.

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

Au Contraire Mon Capitan! You are gonna love me!

[-] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

I felt the exact same way about Q after the first episode both as a character and as a concept for the show. They basically introduced God in the first episode of a science fiction show and he is annoying and arrogant.

But he is actually one of the best characters by the time the show is over and his all-powerful nature is toned down a little bit.

Season 1 is pretty goofy and inconsistent overall. Give it a chance and accept it for what it is and by season 4 the writing is some of the best in science fiction TV.

[-] hansl 13 points 8 months ago

There’s literally a trope for how bad TNG was in the first seasons… until Riker grew a beard.


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[-] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

How big of an ongoing factor is "Q?" Because I kind of hate him.

Blaspheme! Will no one rid me of this turbulent critique?

[-] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

Unless you are a completist who's willing to sit through the less than good episodes, you may want to use an episode guide such as this one which I found useful when I went back to rewatch it. Yes Q is kind of annoying, that's actually his character and how everyone in the show feels about him too. But there are also some fantastic episodes with him, so once you get to those, you may not hate his presence as much.

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

He's a pretty major character, but that only means one or two episodes per season. He's just got a thing for Picard

[-] ummthatguy 25 points 8 months ago

Yeah, a thing. Minor spoiler.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don't know why it's hilarious to me that Picard pulls up his covers like he's ashamed at Q seeing him in the nude, as though he isn't a multidimensional demigod who probably can see through Picard's clothes anyway if he so wished.

It's just such a cute and pointless attempt at privacy with a nearly all powerful being. Like dude he just magicked himself into your bed, you think he didn't already get a good look?

Patrick Stewart : So in my film, I play a man who controls the world with his mind.

Andy Millman : Right. Oh, that's interesting.

Patrick Stewart : Yeah. For instance, I'm walking along, and I see this beautiful girl, and I think I'd like to see her naked, and so all her clothes fall off.

Andy Millman : All her - clothes fall off?

Patrick Stewart : Yes, and she's scrabbling around to get them back on again, but even before she can get her knickers on, I've seen everything. Yeah. I've seen it all.

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

Keep going. It get's much much better. Each season is better than the last, but Season 2 is where the feel of the show stablises and softens; it'll always be jarring when you go back to season 1 after you pass it. Season 3 is definitely where it starts to hit it's stride.

It's largely an episodic show; you could skip to season 3 and go back to the season 1 & 2 later without missing much. A few recurring characters and themese like do Q make more sense if you watch from the start though.

If you're really wavering definitely skip to season 3.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

If it helps - Q introduces a "bad guy" to the series that is so famous that people who haven't seen the series have heard of them.

[-] Crackhappy 23 points 8 months ago
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[-] CADmonkey 8 points 8 months ago

Ohh, you're correct, I'd forgotten that Q had introduced that... particular bad guy.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I see you resisted the urge to say who

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

As great as TNG is, the first season is like the first season of any show: characters are less developed and the vibe is somewhat different than later offerings.

As the show progresses, everything kind of falls into a better place. In fact, the Q character allows for some of the best episodes in the series (e.g. Tapestry). So my advice would be to stick with it and you'll likely feel different later on.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

If you hated him on Next Gen, you'll really hate him on Deep Space Nine. Fortunately, he only appeared there once.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago
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[-] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

You're supposed to hate Q. The Enterprise crew hates Q. He is an annoying trickster god.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

He'll grow on you eventually. And if he doesn't, watch Voyager and DS9 to see him suffer 😈

[-] CodexArcanum 8 points 8 months ago

Sisko's whole attitude to Q is just so damn funny. "I'M NOT PICARD!"

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