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Grindr loses nearly half its staff to strict return-to-work rule::Grindr has lost about 45% of its staff as it enforces a strict return-to-office policy that was introduced after a majority of employees announced a plan to unionize.

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[–] [email protected] 179 points 1 year ago (9 children)

These return-to-office pushes are moronic. We've had three years of remote work without any loss of productivity. Tell us the real reason for the push to be in the office or get the fuck out of my face.

[–] plz1 108 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] plz1 22 points 1 year ago

That too, for this case at least.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

Great way to lose all the best people at your company in a totally uncontrolled manner.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They're giving us bullshit reasons and look how mad people are about it.

The Canadian federal government has been pushing hybrid for about a year now. When it all started they hosted a town hall to answer questions and stuff. One of the directors told a story about how she is happy to go back to the office because she can go to her local Subway and support the business. This erupted into weeks of memes about how we're being forced to the office just to keep Subway in business.

I can't imagine the response to them outright saying they are doing this to please big businesses and landlords.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Tell us the real reason for the push to be in the office or get the fuck out of my face.

A lot of middle managers than need to show that they are usefull and not a bottleneck or useless positions

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Corporations get tax breaks from cities based on expected work population and its resulting economic impact on the local economy. Without people in the office, these tax breaks become legally in jeopardy as the city could argue the company hasn't lived up to its agreement.

And a lot of execs have money in corporate real estate, which, as you can imagine, has lost some value in the last few years.

It's always about money.

[–] SloppyPuppy 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of the real reasons is that companies put a shitton of money into physical infrastructure and based their entire selling point for jobs on office perks. Amd now they dont know what to do with that stuff sitting empty.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Well the way I see it, allowing me to keep getting my fucjing shit done from HOME is possibly THE biggest perk a company can offer to differentiate itself from the moronic ones who don't.

[–] FlyingSquid 6 points 1 year ago

But you'll miss the pizza party! Lunch hour only.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly. I think it has to do with the old way of thinking. They might think that working in office is more productive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I don't. I think that is just a convenient excuse.

In a corporate world it is always about the money full stop.

[–] electrogamerman 21 points 1 year ago

The real reasons are not benefiting the employee, thats why they dont tell them. These are:

  • Use of gasoline for transportation
  • Use of infrastructure

You can guess where the RTO orders are coming from.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm my limited experience, I've noticed a difference between companies that have invested in real estate and those that haven't. Companies who own their buildings are very strict about pushing for their expensive buildings to not sit empty. Companies who lease office space, and especially of they have flexible terms, seem to be more chill about it. Just a general observation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Except for government, they renew their lease lol.

[–] Aux 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah. Our boss saw a huge savings stream from lack of the office, so WFH for life for everyone.

[–] Cabrio 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What we're seeing is large corporations who have contractual obligations surrounding their office spaces, land leases and the buildings they own worried that if everyone goes remote the market for such property dissappears and so does their investment so they are forcing people back into the office to artificially bolster the market for office space while they work to get their money out of the industry and find any bag holders they can to offset future losses, all at the expense of the wellbeing of the working class.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago (1 children)

as it enforces a strict return-to-office policy that was introduced after a majority of employees announced a plan to unionize

This was an excuse for them to get rid of the pesky union forming troublemakers. Despicable.

[–] reversebananimals 36 points 1 year ago

RTO is all about voluntary attrition to avoid having to pay severance. This shithead exec literally says the quiet part out loud in the article:

“The team will be smaller than where we were before and where we want to be,” Arison said. “So that’ll obviously impact margin in a positive way in the near term. But I also think that shows that you can have a lot of leverage in this business because you don’t need that big of a team to do the things that we need to do.”

[–] Sir_Simon_Spamalot 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One could say they're gonna Grind to a halt.

I'll let myself out.

[–] Subverb 2 points 1 year ago

Half their staff or half of their staffs? 🍆🥒

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those guys are getting stiffed