On the other hand, anyone who tells you, "I always tell the truth," is probably lying.
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“If you were to ask me if I always lie, I would say ‘yes’.”
Which would be saying the truth. Which contradict itself.
No—if they were to ask you, you would lie and say “no”. So the claim that you’d make a true statement is still a lie.
No, it's a lie. They wouldn't say yes, so saying that they would say yes is a lie.
you don't need to say yes if someone asks you?
You won't have to lie to said question, but you'd have to tell the truth to do that... or that be a lie too... well, OC is partly right. But it isn't a surefire solution.
If your interlocutor end up asking you the question anyway, you either have to answer "yes", in which case OC told the truth and then you don't always lie, which means you lied to the answer (as you donlt always lie). Or you answer "No", which means you lied in OC, but told the truth as an answer.
Either way, there is no solution to this paradox. You cannot tell that you always lie without telling a truth.
Someone's been studying the 2 guardians puzzle.
Unfortunately you are wrong as there is a very distinct way to say the phrase you quoted, that being to utter the words “I always lie.”
You can say the statement. Doesn't mean the statement is true. You might be a habitual liar and that particular statement is a lie.
this statement is false
I'll go with true.
A fun detail is that all the franken cubes fry and die after hearing the paradox, but Wheatley is still fine.
Really? I didn't notice that.
I didn't either till someone mentioned it in a speed running video
Was that Msushi? I think I heard that same fact from him.
I think so. I've been watching a lot of his videos recently, so that's make sense.
I always wondered why glados is fine, just saying because she's a potatoe doesn't sit with me because she recognised the paradox herself, so she must know what a paradox is and understand why it's dangerous for ai, even in potatoe form
I think she was intelligent enough to temporarily shut down the portions of her brain that would be effected. At least that was my take.
I always saw it as her just saying in her mind, "This. Statement. Is. False." thus just being some four individual one word sentences.
That is plausible, but she saw the sign and read the paradoxes on the signboard - surely just seeing the paradoxes written on the sign would have caught her off guard. I guess it doesn't matter, they just wanted to do a funny moment and it was still good
Yeah, the implication being that in a typical Sledgehammers-To-Crack-Nuts solution to a nonexistent problem, Aperture put full-blown, totally sentient AIs in their cubes/turrets that were at least as intelligent as Wheatley.
Also I only just noticed that Bagley from Watch Dogs is very, very similar to Wheatley.
but then it wouldn't be false
"I don't always lie." wink
"I lie a lot" would also work.
Except for this statement, I always lie.
"Starting at the moment this statement ends, I will always lie."
How do I know that wasn't a lie and that you will occasionally still be telling the truth?
You'd just have to trust me.
I'm a habitual liar. close enough 🤷♂️
I'm a compulsive liar.
Couldn’t you just say that you’re a politician? IMO that would be close enough.
Not quite. You missed the fact that it doesn't need to be the entire statement. "I always lie when I say that the sky is green"
Technically you can't always lie ("always" is the key here) so the statement can't be true. Besides that you can say the words in that specific order, no problem.
"Me? I'm dishonest, and a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly. It's the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they're going to do something incredibly... stupid."
I DON'T always lie
You could be saying the truth or lying in this instance.
I don’t think that’s a problem because it’s impossible to ‘always’ lie and not be noticed. I don’t even know it’s possible to always lie. May be most of the time, but then you can say ‘i lie most of the time’ without any issues