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CNN Max is likely to evolve over time. Among the features the company will try out are ways of alerting Max viewers to breaking news while they are watching something else on the service, whether it be an HBO series, a Turner Classic Movies selection or an old episode of Food Network’s “Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives.”

The enshittification of our world continues unabated.

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Great, a CNN "Breaking News" update interrupting your movie or show every time Trump pinches off a fresh new loaf on Pravda Social; just what everyone wants!

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not currently subscribed, but if they don't have an option to disable this I will never subscribe again. For that matter, any streaming service that doesn't allow me to watch a movie/show uninterrupted from beginning to end is a showstopper for me. I can only imagine what streaming services will start doing if they are okay with adding a banner or cutting a stream for news. Ads will be right behind it.

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[–] NevermindNoMind 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have the cbs news app on my phone. Yesterday I got a breaking news push notification informing me that someone caught a big alligator. I can't imagine the rage I'd be filled with if I was immersed in a show only to be interrupted by a pop up like that.

Or to use the recent hurricane coverage as an example:

  • Breaking: Hurricane Project To Hit Florida
  • Breaking: Hurricane Projected to be 'Major Hurricane '
  • Breaking: Hurricane Strengthens to Category 3 Ahead of Landfall in Florida
  • Breaking: Hurricane Strengths to Category 4 Ahead of Landfall in Florida
  • Breaking: Hurricane Makes Landfall in Florida
  • Breaking: Hurricane Downgraded to Category 2 Hours After Landfall in Florida
  • Breaking: Small City Faces Sever Flooding from Hurricane
  • Breaking: Hurricane Crosses into Georgia

Etc. Pop up, pop up, pop up, pop up. Id either stop watching Max or have to ask my doc to prescribe blood pressure meds.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I agree. I can understand interrupting the show for somethings. Earthquake early warning, fine. A celebrity going to rehab, not ok.

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[–] abracaDavid 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's just gonna be "breaking news" that turns out to just be fear mongering. Kinda like how pretty much all major news sources have been for the last 20(?) years.

Hard pass.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Both are now owned by Trump defender David Zaslav, the same guy who decided to rename HBO Max to Max. He has a history of reworking networks. https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/david-zaslav-cnn-chris-licht-warner-discovery-1235634424/

Add HBO and CNN to the enshittification list.

[–] FlyingSquid 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. Zaslav is a real piece of shit. He was also behind cancelling Batgirl and Scoob before they were released and taking a bunch of animated shows off of Max but not making them available anywhere else.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like we need a shakeup to copyright law. If you copyright something and place it for sale, you can't just remove it from sale. And if you do, like in the Zaslav-enshittification, it becomes public domain. Once you create and share something with the world, it isn't really yours anymore. Sure we should enable creators to monetize that for a reasonable amount of time (~20yr or so, or 10yr after death) but deliberately removing creation from being able to legally be seen again is bullshit. If you wanted to keep your shit secret, it shouldn't have been copyrighted and published. /rant

[–] FlyingSquid 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think we should return to the original copyright laws we had at the beginning of the 20th century. You had to register something to copyright it. If you did, you had a copyright for 19 years with an option to renew at the end of those 19 years. After that, it was public domain.

38 years is more than long enough to profit off of a work.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, imagine if the old laws applied and someone could just create a cheap streaming site with all the stuff that went into the public domain after 20 years. You'd have multiple streaming sites with the same content just competing on service and price instead of what exclusive content they had.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 1 year ago

I would definitely think that having a vast PD library available would reduce piracy.

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[–] phoneymouse 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

CNN is not relevant to me or my generation. It is a rage bait channel for boomers. Nothing productive is ever discussed on there. It is a giant circle jerk about Trump’s latest outrage. They beat every topic to absolute death. I’m sorry, I have other things to do besides watch a bunch of mannequins find ways to fill 12 hours of air time from a 2 minute news clip.

If you start interrupting my escape from the daily news cycle with useless breaking news alerts, not only will I kill you, I’ll also cancel my subscription to Max.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, this is just a ridiculous idea that only a geriatric boomer could come up with. If there was breaking news we cared about, we'd get a notification on our phone. Unless we intentionally put our phone on silent because we wanted to enjoy something without interruption.

They're really going to push everyone to running their own home servers to watch pirated content again. For a few years they had a product where for a like $10/mo we could just watch whatever without ads, and it was legitimately better than piracy. They're just hell bent on ruining that.

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[–] HeapOfDogs 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

HBO used to be my favorite streaming service, I loved it. Now it's full of reality tv crap. RIP.

[–] Blankmann 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's why they preemptively dropped "HBO" from the old "HBO Max" moniker.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Get HBO classic for an additional $14.99!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't give them any ideas!

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[–] AllonzeeLV 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Among all the other bullshit they pulled, the CEO bragged upon purchase of choking the service with cheap to produce reality show crap.

I had HBO in some form for decades, since I was a kid. They were the best and among the last prestige content creators. I dropped HBOs corpse last year over it. Fuck this late stage capitalism race to the bottom.

Also, if somehow all the shit they pulled upon acquisition wasn't enough to stop paying them 160 annually a year ago, this would have been.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I've had multiple issues with very recently released movies (like Crazy Rich Asians) not playing at all and only giving me pixelated nonsense or the aspect ratios being completely fucked up. Never happened on HBO Max. Only since the forced migration to the new app

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

My nothing-a-month-plan looks better every day.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Max wants to push alerts on viewers when there is breaking news on CNN.

I could maybe see there being a market for this if the default is not to show them, and there's an option to receive notification of developments on a specific topic. It's better than rabidly refreshing a particular topic that you are specially interested in.

Like, say you live in an area with an approaching hurricane, and you wanted to be alerted if there are any new developments on that particular topic.

However, I have a hard time believing that, in the general case, people want alerts popping up.

[–] hearthing 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The issue is that I can't tell CNN how severe of a breaking news story I want it to be to interrupt what I'm watching. To me, a story worthy of interrupting my show would be like the death of the president or nuclear armageddon or something. But to CNN, breaking news is like so and so celebrity said "Trump bad".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yep, not only is the idea super annoying, the thing that news networks think should be breaking news is completely out of step with what people actually want to know about.

It's always stuff like 'old celebrity died!', 'Trump did/said something idiotic!', 'we still haven't found MH370!', 'some bullshit about the UK royal family!'.

[–] RememberTheApollo 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately something like “Biden’s college ex-roomate’s best friend’s cousin was caught on camera saying a bad word!” constitutes “Breaking News” for CNN.

[–] FlyingSquid 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, I don't care if the news is that WW3 has broken out. Don't push notifications on me while I'm watching streaming media. I have my own ways of finding out the news.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, I don’t care if the news is that WW3 has broken out.

I do, but you don't need CNN to do that. There are already emergency alerting systems to inform you if you need to head to cover.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Hawaii_false_missile_alert

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] weedazz 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's honestly gotten so good now and lead me to learn so much more about storage hardware and home servers

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah I got 30TB of everything from tv to film to comics to music, haven't had to rely on a streaming service since dumping Netflix over a decade ago.

[–] FlyingSquid 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

True, but not as helpful for the Turner Classic Movies side of the business. A lot of old films are not available via piracy sites because there isn't much interest in them outside of a niche film buff market. I haven't looked, but I'm guessing I'm not going to see too many Dead End Kids or Boston Blackie movies on a torrent site, but I might on TCM. And now they're going to interrupt that with bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just did a quick search and there seems to be some material from both in archive.org, even youtube and theres some DEK movies in yts too. In case you are interested.

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[–] kaitco 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It depends on how deep you wish to go down the hole.

For me, and especially now that Netflix is ending their DVD service, if I can’t find something old via torrent, I’ll find it on DVD on Amazon, used for as cheap as possible. Then, rip it, and sell it back on Amazon used. Odds are, whoever is buying it from me is doing the same thing I just did.

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[–] fubo 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a reminder, CNN betrayed Americans way back in the early 1990s by selling the first Bush War, and hasn't gotten better since.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Was there mainstream media that didn't try to sell the war? You had to go to stuff like Democracy Now to hear any kind of critical voices.

[–] Md1501 19 points 1 year ago

If I get a notification that interrupts what I am watching on HBO Max I will never use it again

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

My question is, what exactly do they consider 'breaking news'? These days every news story starts off with 'breaking news'. If they want to interrupt me so bad, I'll find whatever I want to watch elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Motherfuckers, I don’t even watch CNN. What the fuck is going on today? Sony raising PS plus prices to ridiculous levels and now this. Fuck CNN. Fuck MAX!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

What the fuck is going on today?

Interest rates. Loans just got a lot more expensive so big companies are all scrambling to shake down their customers for every penny they can get so they can get more debt off their books.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

"raising PS plus prices to ridiculous levels" Just change to a different company's service, .... Oh, wait.

[–] IamAnonymous 5 points 1 year ago

I just looked up PS Plus prices. Wth. Why does everything have to go up in price? The same service costs $20 more? I used to always get the codes on sale and now that’s harder to get so I was already thinking twice about renewing. Now with the price increase, I might as well just not renew it.

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[–] Sanctus 10 points 1 year ago

RSS feeds exist already.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

glad I cancelled max, seems like they're mostly a tax shelter at this point

[–] partial_accumen 7 points 1 year ago

"Max helps you escape into wonderful stories of fiction or documentary drama....except when we interrupt your escape and shove something in your face to return you to reality that everything sucks" -Max probably

[–] FartsWithAnAccent 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, I sure as shit won't be subscribing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The minute I see anything pop up while watching my Bar Rescue I will be cancelling my subscription

[–] greendakota99 4 points 1 year ago

This bullshit is going to interrupt me during my 14th rewatch of Entourage?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Something that perhaps I missed in the article is if CNN Max will be a new app or will the use the existing Max app? If it’s the latter then I hope we can disable it.

[–] FlyingSquid 5 points 1 year ago

It's the latter.

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