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[–] Clent 116 points 1 year ago

Literally the point.

This is how Mormons operate. There is no give without at least guilt. They record tithings. They will use this against you. They think this is acceptable.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago

Part of the plan.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The first option when you call Utah's unemployment hotline is, "Press 1 to Report Fraud." And I literally had Department of Workforce staff recommend Mormon-only resources, such as "The Bishop's Pantry" where they have the "good milk/bread, etc..."

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

Big church forced dependency as a mechanism of control . We must destroy these evil institutions

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

That is a feature not a bug

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

The purpose of a system is what it does

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What an insanely evil looking building.. Just sayin

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LDS is just wild and they are growing so fast.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Doubt those numbers with all your might mind and strength. That is a PR spin from the church. Their census cannot be trusted or independently verified. They are losing the younger generation big time.

[–] FordBeeblebrox 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thanks for reminding me I still need to make them take my name off the records. Haven’t set foot in one of their buildings in 15 years and there’s probably a lot of younger folks like me

[–] hashferret 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their grip of control extends far further than it seems. I need to be taken off the records as well but know it will trigger some sort of notification mechanism and create drama with family. Even when I feel like I'm out from under their thumb there's emotional blackmail that members are willing to smile and shrug off.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That is my own exact reason for remaining on the roster. I am multi-generational Mormon and the whisper network still operates very well. Thankfully I do not live behind the Zion Curtain anymore.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Indeed they have a membership retention crisis especially among young men. They've had to merge congregations together and are definitely lying. In order to get yourself off the membership roles and stop getting hounded by the Mormon Church's IRS you literally have to get a lawyer to file paperwork on your behalf. Yes it's really that bad the website is called to quitmormon.com I believe

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

My wife is still counted as a member and hasn't had anything to do with them in 15 years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That probably isn't true where I live (not in Utah). Here, there is an LDS church seemingly on every street corner. It's crazy. See a church, go 1 mile south and see another, go 1 mile east, see another, etc. It's really spooky because more often than not, an LDS church is right next to a very wealthy neighborhood.

How can they afford so many buildings and property? Is it a front for money laundering or something?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes but because it's religion it's legal for them to break the law

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Working as intended.