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A Mars Colony Needs Just 22 People to Survive, Simulation Suggests::undefined

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[–] RoyalEngineering 39 points 1 year ago

Hmm. 🤔 Did they use Rimworld as the simulator?

[–] FlyingSquid 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not if one of those people is Elon Musk.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Oh, but I think he should be at the top of the list of people who go first. I'm sure he and 21 of his billionaire friends will surely pull through.

[–] FlyingSquid 23 points 1 year ago

I would definitely volunteer him.

[–] Phoenixbouncing 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This reminds me of am episode of Love Death and Robots

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If they provided mechs for each person, you might see more people signing up. Don't mention the space bugs though.

[–] JYYFi 1 points 1 year ago

Imagine the public freakout if 22 billionaires announced that they were going to Mars together.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Until Eric is caught cheating on his girlfriend with Alice....

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt 2 points 1 year ago

My last run on planetbase says otherwise.

[–] Buddahriffic 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think the bare minimum of people creating a self-sustaining population can afford to be monogamous. Though it doesn't take many generations before that can start, 2nd gen might even be able to, assuming 1st gen has enough kids.

[–] ArghZombies 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Speeds are ok but the latency is horrible.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Average is 750'000 ms ping to Earth, but it depends on season

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Guys, I signed up 22 times. Don't worry, I got this.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I remember reading somewhere it was around 500-1000 for a sustainable human colony to begin. Did we get better at avoiding Hapsburg Jaws?

[–] Genrawir 12 points 1 year ago

I was wondering the same thing before reading the article. This is for a 28 year mission, and doesn't include setting up the base, or power and water supply.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 1 points 1 year ago

I think that number comes from long term genetic diversity issues. Some rule in biology about inbreeding depression came up with it

[–] scarabic 1 points 1 year ago

If it’s basic generic viability I’ve always heard 30-60 though I couldn’t name a source for that.

[–] BeardedSingleMalt 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only 22? Should that include someone for Graphic Design?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I’m sure the “computer-savvy” nephew that came along to the colony can do the designer’s work, a lot cheaper too

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

And then you wonder why it specifically states "no more...no less .."

[–] omega_x3 5 points 1 year ago

Does playing RimWorld count as running a simulation? Cause managing 22 people is too much trouble, unless a few might just be there in case the crops don't do well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know where i got this same number, maybe in a course talking about genealogy in school, a'd i use it since then.

[–] Buddahriffic 2 points 1 year ago

Iirc, the Matrix used that same number for determining how many humans to leave alive outside of the matrix so that the community wound be self-sustaining before they were able to ramp up breaking people out again.