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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably due to your motherboard not supporting some TPM requirement.

Just use windows 10

[–] FuglyDuck 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Basically…. It’s old and they don’t want to support the architecture.

At least that’s the answer MS will give.

The reality is there’s nothing wrong with it, it’s more powerful than most lower end laptops and could run win 11 just fine except they want to sell you new hardware.

[–] linearchaos 11 points 1 year ago

Microsoft only supports Intel processors in the ranges where Intel still supports the processors.

While they still work Intel no longer offers support for the 7th gen and back, so Microsoft writes them off rather than borrowing trouble.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

You can install Win 11 anyway following one of many guides on the internet.

You also can try Linux. It is great.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It won't let me upgrade to win11 on my macbook either :(

[–] snausagesinablanket 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would definitely be an upgrade for you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not sure if it would make much difference compared to win10 and it is just for gaming.

[–] ndupont 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If your motherboard has TPM 1.2, you can go for it it works fine for me and that's more resources than most current entry level hardware in mini PC

[–] j4k3 5 points 1 year ago

I just went from a 4700 i7 to a 12700...because I wanted to play with software that utilizes every bit of this hardware and then some (offline AI). Not to justify the stupidity of this hardware obsolesce, but it is a MASSIVE upgrade as far as hardware performance. Much more than I expected. Your results will likely vary though. I only use Linux on everything. My single thread speed doubled, the PCIE gen 4 NVME is three times faster than my old Samy Evo SSD, my internet speeds quadrupled with no other changes on my lan.

The following is a deep rabbit hole, but if your gen 4 has a TPM chip, you may be able to manually take control of the PK key by generating your own key set and then setting up a Microsoft key. I think there is info for windows too here:

https://media.defense.gov/2020/Sep/15/2002497594/-1/-1/0/CTR-UEFI-Secure-Boot-Customization-UOO168873-20.PDF

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bro your CPU is almost a decade old. I get that you're annoyed but c'mon

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

an I have a 10 y/o cpu or two, and I can run windows, iOS about 10 linux vm's and lxc's and a shitload of docker containers, home automation, NAS and firewall all on it. MS just needs to get over it's self sometimes

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

4th gen is very old, so windows being really bloated and inefficient probably cut support for it.

Try linux if you are interested. The day to day performance is actually really good (except gaming ofc)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The gaming performance is mostly really good as well. Some windows-only games even run better on Linux (some also won't run at all ofc)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's good, but not perfect. KSP through proton works perfectly though, so I don't mind

[–] Nibodhika 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

KSP has a native version for Linux that used to be better than the Windows one because it was actually 64 bits. Has that changed?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nope, but I like using windows targeted KSP mods

[–] Nibodhika 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shouldn't mods be cross platform though? In most games mods are implemented by the game engine so they're not platform specific, KSP is Unity based and I'm fairly confident that other Unity games have cross platform mods.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know, but one time I tried some of my mods didn't work, and it runs fine on proton anyway so I don't mind.