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[–] Ace0fBlades 427 points 10 months ago (17 children)

Tldr: Remote desktop, Cortana, camera, people app are all getting uninstall buttons.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] w2tpmf 22 points 10 months ago (7 children)
PS> get-appxpackage *teams* | remove-appxpackage
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[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble 21 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Why remote desktop? I can understand the rest. But who uninstalls default apps and doesn't use remote desktop?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Very few people use remote desktop.

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[–] [email protected] 162 points 10 months ago (7 children)

The more steam deck and proton get games working on linux, the less need I have for this bloated windows.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It's truly ridiculous how much Linux gaming leapfrogged with the Steam Deck. I'm contemplating installing a debian partition for my main PC since I don't really play a lot of games that need anti-cheat.

The madlads really did it.

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 10 months ago (26 children)

I'm all for less bloat ware, but come one. The camera app or remote desktop are the least shitty ones. Its borderline to call them even bloatware.

[–] Piers 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

To be clear, they seem to be saying that those apps will still be preinstalled. They'll just be easier to uninstall if you want to do so.

"option for the first time to uninstall the Camera app, Cortana app, Photos app, People app, and the Remote Desktop client. "

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[–] Leminator 99 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Let's cut the crap: it's not that they "realized" nobody wants it -- it's that they've come to accept the blowback against their reputation has gotten too big to outweigh the potential pros of preinstalled bloatware supporting their strategy.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 10 months ago (3 children)

They always knew, they just didn't care.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Im running Windows 11 on my new laptop. Every major update it's like:

  • PLZ LET EDGE BE UR BROWSER
  • BRO PLZ, OFFICE SUBSCRIPTION
  • LOCATION?
  • Let me just install tiktok and FB apps.

My laptop officially supports Ubuntu, think I might make the switch full time. I don't game on my laptop and most of it's use is browser, plex and emails...

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[–] Ragerist 74 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Realized?? They knew all the time, and didn't give a shit.

It's more likely that they have pushed too far, and users are pushing back. They will dial it back a bit, and hope people forget.

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[–] quams69 66 points 10 months ago (4 children)

That, and stop dumbing down the UI. Gradeschoolers in 1999 could operate windows, it doesn't need to get dumber

[–] [email protected] 50 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Gradeschoolers, yes.

Boomers are still struggling even with the modern, simplified UI. They would likely continue to struggle if we had Idiocracy style UI on things (big, bright colored buttons with pictures of what they do).

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They've always realized, they've just never cared.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (28 children)

Using Windows primarily for gaming, I eventually got tired of some of the issues I had with it (ads appearing in the start menu). I gave Linux a try and it was so so for a while. I kept going back and forth but it's been 2 years now and I haven't had Windows installed and can play 90% of my games without issue. I wouldn't recommend it for everyone. But for those that primarily use their computer for gaming and non-windows specific applications (like web browsing or other various things), Linux is offering some competition for desktop people.

[–] tallwookie 21 points 10 months ago (3 children)

linux seems to work pretty well until it doesnt and then it really doesnt work. seems that there's still some hardware incompatibility issues

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[–] MossBear 38 points 10 months ago (8 children)

This is all so foreign to me now. I'm not forced to keep anything on Linux.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 10 months ago (17 children)

How to tell if someone uses Linux? Don't worry they will tell you.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I use Arch BTW. Sorry couldn't help myself.

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[–] negativeyoda 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

A vegan, Linux using crossfitter walks up to you. What do they tell you about first?

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[–] thattysonguy 38 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don't give a shit, I'll use other programs to uninstall whatever I want.

Call me when I can use a vertical task bar. Until then, I'm sticking with win10.

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[–] urfavlaura 37 points 10 months ago

it's crazy to think that you can't just uninstall some apps in the first place even though it would be technologically possible

[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (14 children)

a beta build of Windows 11 in the Canary Channel includes the option for the first time to uninstall the Camera app, Cortana app, Photos app, People app, and the Remote Desktop client.

Still no Microsoft edge though...

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Is there a way to disable the ads, news and recommendations yet? Until then I'm not upgrading.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Wait: They are saying you can remove the Remote Desktop client? You mean the client you cannot use to connect to a Windows Home license because you cannot run remote desktop without a higher license?

Interesting flex there Microsoft.

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[–] GloveNinja 26 points 10 months ago (9 children)

If I could also get the ability to disable internet search results from the start menu that'd be great. So sick of looking for a file or app, hitting enter a second too soon, and having Edge slowly eat my resources to display a Bing search result that I never wanted.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I'm a CG artist and I dual boot Fedora on my workstation and run it on my file/license server. I'm very familiar with Linux and it's great for a lot of things.

A ton of my software runs much better than on windows and I would stay in it if I could, but unfortunately I have software needs that don't run on Linux and can't work in a VM in full capacity.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Good, maybe in two or three more years Windows 11 will be useable. Right on time for Windows 12 to roll out and drag Microsoft users back to the Stone Age again.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They always knew. When the time comes they'll force everything back with even more bloatware and even less freedom to choose because that's the corpo way. This is just another long-term power grab.

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[–] fugepe 23 points 10 months ago (13 children)
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[–] randon31415 23 points 10 months ago

Windows 11 Pro, now with NOTHING installed. Windows 11 Pro plus, now with firefox pre-installed so you can clame your system never had edge on it!

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