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[–] Leminator 99 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Let's cut the crap: it's not that they "realized" nobody wants it -- it's that they've come to accept the blowback against their reputation has gotten too big to outweigh the potential pros of preinstalled bloatware supporting their strategy.

[–] Bartsbigbugbag 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you think titles like that are a result of a severely myopic mind, unable to even comprehend why a corporation would willingly do something that their users dislike, or just clickbait?

[–] Tangent5280 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's a soft heading - they could be more honest and blunt, but a history of reporting like that may jeopardize any relationship they might have with Microsoft - with regards to press releases or advertising money and stuff like that.

I don't find it plausible that the people at pcmag, who's reported in this domain for a long time, can't see past such light corporate fuckery.

[–] martinmine 3 points 1 year ago

The title suggests that Microsoft has come to a conclusion that nobody wants their inbox apps, which is not the case according to the contents of the article. This title would have been true if Microsoft had come with a statement saying that "according to user feedback blabla we have decided to add the uninstall option". The reason might as well have been technical but this is yet to be disclosed. The term bloatware can also be seen as subjective as we normally define software that we personally don't have any usage of as bloat, the fact that nobody will uses it is highly unlikely. So I would say that the title of this article is misleading and quite opinionated, most likely because the author is upset about the bloat in the Windows OS he is experiencing.

[–] Intralexical 1 points 1 year ago

Snarky anthropomorphization primarily serving clickbait and liability-limiting, I think, pretty clearly.

Really, the headline could just be "Microsoft To Allow Removing Preinstalled Apps", or "Bloatware Apps will be Removable After Windows 11 Update", or something like that. But the way they worded it lets them both sound more sarcastic to people who are pissed off by the scummy practice, and at the same time also sound plausibly less direct in calling Microsoft out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, every OS out there beyond (maybe?) some hardcore Linux distros preinstalls this stuff though. Some (but not all) will let you remove it. None really make it "easy" or give you choices during install.

I think it's just easier to treat all apps the same than special casing some and then having to install other hacks to get around the first ones for managed systems. It's cheaper to treat them all the same.

[–] riodoro1 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but when you boot a linux machine the cpu goes down to 0% load after you log in and stays there. Microsofts bloat runs in the background constantly. A windows laptop turns the fan on randomly when the lid was closed for a fucking day.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

All Linux distros give you the choice of installing and uninstalling whatever you want.