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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


KYIV, Aug 11 (Reuters) - President Volodymyr Zelenskiy broadened his battle against graft on Friday, firing all the heads of Ukraine's regional army recruitment centres as the war with Russia enters a critical stage.

Zelenskiy said a state investigation into centres across Ukraine had exposed abuses by officials ranging from illegal enrichment to transporting draft-eligible men across the border despite a wartime ban on them leaving the country.

Ukraine has made cracking down on graft a priority as it fends off Russia's full-scale invasion and seeks membership of the European Union and has fired or prosecuted a string of high-ranking officials implicated in sleaze.

Zelenskiy said that any sacked army recruitment officers who are not being investigated should head to the front to fight for Ukraine "if they want to keep their epaulettes and prove their dignity".

Videos purporting to depict army recruiters aggressively pursuing or becoming violent with would-be draftees have gone viral on social media in the country, which has been under martial law since the invasion.

Zelenskiy said top general Valery Zaluzhny would be responsible for implementing Friday's decision and that new candidates for the posts would first be vetted by Ukraine's domestic security service, the SBU.


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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Misses important bit;

"This system should be run by people who know exactly what war is and why cynicism and bribery during war is treason," he said, adding that those fired would be replaced by recent veterans and soldiers wounded at the front.

[–] SheeEttin 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

those fired would be replaced by recent veterans and soldiers wounded at the front

Somehow I'm not sure that they would be the most effective recruiters.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

They're not trying to sell a bright future like military recruiters in the US. People are forced to do their military service by law and the recruiters are responsible to match the drafted people with the role that fits best.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trust me bro, you'll love the battlefield and definitely not end up injured like me

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

"Mobile Infantry made me the man I am today."

[–] CitizenKong 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey it worked for Starship Troopers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I beg to differ. The applicants talking to recent vets or wounded soldiers know that these people could be their future. It is important to know all the possible outcomes, including possible PSTD, death, or dismemberment. Having recruiters that are too disconnected from the human war cost is a disservice, in my opinion.

I think I missed my point in there. They would be more effective when those new soldiers are on the frontline fighting, instead of selling a false image of how easy joining would be. That false sell would result in wasted resources training soldiers that wouldn't be as effective. Sometimes it's better to have less people in your unit, when the extra bodies (that were lied to) would cause more wasted time and energy. Time and energy that should be focused on war.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I doesn't matter if the guy serving draft notices was wounded.

I guess some of the lucky conscripts will try to run away and then it might matter.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I knew from reading the headline that Hexbear's horde of mouthbreathers would show up to brigade and spread their propaganda. Sure enough, here we are

Edit: You guys really are just proving my point lmao

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hexbear users rushing to bombard this comment with image reactions to say they're not brigading

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're exactly correct! Lmao

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I play "count the fallacies" with the comments. So far I've seen: ad homonim; what-about-ism; strawman ; appeal to popularity ; appeal to authority ; hasty generalization / ecological fallacy

I get bored well before I stop counting

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Lol I don't even bother with reading anything they say at all. I just block anyone who's on Hexbear, I must have half the instance blocked. And my experience browsing Lemmy has been so much better for it!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's not a who, it's an instance: hexbear.net. It's also full of pro-Russia tankies.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Uh… Is there a reason why I’ve never heard of this?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

They were not federated before. They did around 9 days ago.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russian troll farms have hit lemmy = lemmy has made it to the social media big leagues now!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

When you've hit the lemmyverse

checks notes

Three years ago... Huh.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Very cool that the moment someone says "brigading" I can look at their profile and see, yup they joined in June. Wonder why that is 🤔

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I've been interacting with them recently to see what they are all about and lmao I don't think I've ever had a dumber discussion in my life. Truly they are uniquely stupid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

My cats have learned the wirr motor sound of the feeder means food. So they'll run from whereever in the house at an motor sound. Suddenly like "it's food time right? Right? But the noise means food...." Regardless of any further context.

Same same but different with hexbear.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sort of. But so is letting your country be taken over by orcs. Choose your poison.

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