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As a Kbin user I went to take a look at Kbin, it's about 40k users in all. Looks like all in there'll be more than 100k users.
The monthly stats for users for both Kbin and Lemmy are encouraging, the numbers really spiked in June. I hope this continues for a while yet.
There will be another spike on July 1st IMO, that's when reddit 3rd party apps will stop working, after that things should settle, it's possible some people will go back to reddit but things should normalize after that.
Unless some other big corp decides to sh*it on their users like reddit is doing lol.
but things should normalize after that.
There's a greater likelihood that the content creators are the ones moving. Most of the reddit power users likely used third party apps. Most of the reddit power users are also the ones who wrote most of the comments worth reading.
So if on june 1 most of the reddit power users flee, reddit's enshitification will have reached a terminal stage. Eventually, reddit will stop having things worth reading, and the lurkers will all move over.
I think we're in for a long decline of reddit a la facebook. However unlike facebook, there isn't a market of old people/foreign markets that can fill their user numbers.
During the protest I've seen several people saying they didn't even know 3rd party apps existed, I believe we seriously underestimate the amount of people who don't care about anything as long as they get their daily "dose" of memes.
Many power users have moved already, more will follow, but the masses? Reddit is infested with reposting bots but most people don't even notice, they have so much content in there that it will last them for years, even if all content creators left, not to mention AI.
That's not to say reddit will never die, but I believe it'll take a much longer time than we think.
I think that the truth is in the middle. It won't be quick, but people will slowly notice the quality of posts decreasing and no longer being interesting. Once that happens, people will start complaining, and then leaving. If they'll cone here...and if we WANT them to come here... isn't clear, but I think they'll start leaving.
I honestly don't care. If we make this thing here work, let the bots have reddit. As long as the old discussions aren't deleted, it can be tiktok 2 for all I care (if this here growth into what it seems to grow into).
So for me, while I knew of the 3PAs I didn't start using them until the uproar. And when I did switch, I was like "how the hell did I stay on the official app for so long!"
I'm noticing that in some of the communities I followed on Reddit that have moved to Lemmy. It's a number of the big-name posters who really kept the community active who've moved, and the others are trickling in after them...
reddit is going to continue to decline. The fediverse sites/subs already have a healthy, and growing number of users. Just continue focusing on making these communities better and more people will organically continue to transition over
What really hurts so much about this is that Reddit is effectively a modern Alexandrian Library, and it's burning. There's so much content there that's vitally important and it could all go up in smoke. Anybody know any full archival projects?
I know r/DataHoarder is working hard for it, dunno where they are storing all the data tho.
Many of datahoarders initiatives are pointless at best. Hoarding reddits data across a thousand personal hard drives that are inaccessible to anyone else is of extremely limited value. I've watched them perform the same action over and over, but most of the time that data never ends up in a new home. It just rots at someone's house.
I agree, I know people irl who will be quitting on the 1st once they can't use Apollo.
I don't think reddit will ever actually die. I'll probably still even check it for information I need if it's a community that didn't move since I have a few eSports I follow and people post tournament threads on Reddit and no where else. But hoping that people move over still. Unfortunately it's a sub that's been re-opened and lots of users aren't even "redditors". A lot are on Reddit for the specific topic :/
I don't think Reddit will go through a dramatic death as Digg did. Digg v4, as many old timers remember, happened in a different era with a different mix of users.
Reddit will slowly become what their management always wanted it to become: a bastard child of facebook. Some may stay because of habit, some simply won't care, it's all the casual crowd Spez is betting on.
That also means it will die a slow death where big flashy subs will be inundated with recycled memes and botspam despite the effort of some with good intentions that still hang into that platform.
If any those become disillusioned and look for another place, Lemmy/Kbin can become that second home.
I think the biggest issue to user growth will be getting the word out that this place exists. Like a lot of people, I'm trying to find a more ethical alternative to Reddit and had no idea kbin was a thing.
I never heard of lemmy and kbin either before 2-3 weeks ago, yet here I am. Info about alternatives has been plastered everywhere on reddit since then, really hard to not see them.
Yep, super encouraging to see kbin.socialβs growth as well!
I'm appreciative that accounts are still open; I came over from Beehaw because I want to experience ALL of what LemmyNet has to offer... We all need to support lemmy.world and LemmyNet - I think we're in the early days of pulling Reddit users... I know that's tough in many ways, but I'm ready to do whatever it takes - including leaning up a LemmyNet domain myself. Lets g00000!
So fucking proud of lemmy.world right now. Long live the fediverse!
Look at that uptime! Huge shout out to @Ruud and the entire admin crew. Don't forget to leave a tip!
Awesome. Fuck Reddit
it was the first one I found, not even sure I knew what I was picking when I signed up.
Same here. Then after doing some more reading I guess it's better if people spread around more. But I can not fault them for doing exactly the same thing.
Is there something like a Lemmy guide on how to use it? I'm using jerboa, and finding communities is not a user friendly experience so far. Everything is so separated.
Edit: thanks! I also decided to use "install app" from my browser which just makes an applet on my home screen. For now, this is a much better experience than jerboa. I understand it's very new so I'll definitely keep an eye on development
Try this guide: https://lemmy.world/post/37906
Communities on lemmy (including ones on lemmy.world) are brand new and are still trying to generate some momentum. Feel free to help contribute by posting and commenting.
Thanks for the install app tip. Seems like it works a bit nicer. Hopefully jerboa or some other apps will be equal to the the 3rd party teddit apps soon
I'm REALLY hoping the dev for boost (for reddit) makes a Lemmy app.
I would love to see Apollo, Relay, RIF, Boost etc rewrite their apps to Lemmy. But I suspect those devs will find a job elsewhere in the mobile dev space
Servers: I'm tired boss!
Ruud: That's too damn bad!
This is great! Hopefully we will be around 50k before the 30th so when people check out Lemmy they will see it's active and join.
Is the instance ready for a huge influx of users on July 1st?
Have the same question, I'm quite worried about this as posting and federation is laggy at times
A good percentage of lemmy.ml users aren't active vs. lemmy.world.
Glad to see this for Lemmy.World
At some point this instance should stop it's indefinite growth IMHO. Centralizing users is not in the ethos of lemmy. ~~I think once it reaches the size of lemmy.ml it should close to new users.~~
EDIT: Ok, there are a lot of good replies here. Maybe reaching the limit of lemmy.ml shouldnt be the limit, but my overall opinion still stands. This instance should consider a theoretical limit where further growth could be detrimental to the overall network. I think celebrating being the largest instance shouldn't be a metric that is considered good in and of itself.
Then the other instances (including new ones) should step up their recruiting efforts as well.
Also, lemmy.worldβs user base is still nothing compared to Redditβs 52 million daily users, for example.
Putting a pause on growth over some arbitrary number seems silly at this point, especially when lemmy as a whole is still in its infancy. Putting the cart before the horse to me.
Hard disagree. Lemmy, much like Mastadon is SO confusing for the mass public to sign up for. If you have an instance that is popular and can handle the load, NEVER turn people away. You just make it more confusing.
If your server can't handle the load, fine. If you want specific users on your instance, fine. But if you're a general Lemmy instance that average non technical redditors want to sign up for, DO NOT TURN THEM AWAY.
Furthermore, Lemmy is just a blip in the radar of Reddit. Worrying about centralization right now is putting the cart before the horse. Let's build up Lemmy whatever way we can.
Yep, we should have a stable, general-purpose landing place (like lemmy.world is shaping up to be) for new users before they start spreading out.
To play devils advocate, freedom is the ethos of lemmy. Let this instance encourage migration, whilst users are free to access it from any other instance too :)
I'm happy to see lemmy.world grow as I look inward from kbin.social, and I think we should all be happy the fediverse in general is gaining traction.
Same. Iβm thrilled to see both lemmy.world and kbin.social growing, especially now that kbin.social has refederated.
I agree that the growth shouldn't be infinite, but I also think that line should be higher. But I doubt anything will happen before July 1st.
Nice. Still praying for a hide submission feature so I don't see the same thing all the time (Serial refresher!)
