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Voters in Ohio reject GOP-backed proposal that would have made it tougher to protect abortion rights (apnews.com)

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Ohio voters on Tuesday resoundingly rejected a Republican-backed measure that would have made it more difficult to change the state’s constitution, setting up a fall campaign that will become the nation’s latest referendum on abortion rights since the U.S. Supreme Court overturned nationwide protections last year.

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[–] curve 122 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Abortion is the big ticket item and the headline isn't wrong but it's also more than that- it would've basically given the Ohio Republican Party power for decades. They already illegally gerrymander, etc. and this would've made them even more unaccountable.

Current rules- 44 counties to get signatures, 10 day cure period to gather more if you fall short, 50+% to pass.
Proposed rules- 5% from ALL 88 counties, no cure period, 60% to pass.

Essentially, grassroots initiatives already have a high hurdle and this would've made them effectively impossible. Only big moneyed interests could ever get anything on the ballot again.

Very, very happy it failed.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 11 months ago (3 children)

From my city's Democrat group:

What landmark changes to Ohio law would have FAILED under Issue 1?

In just the 21st century:

2000: Clean Ohio Fund; state can sell enviro bonds (57% in favor...would have FAILED)
2005: Third Frontier program to modernize Ohio's economy (54% in favor...would have FAILED)
2006: Increasing minimum wage (57% in favor...would have FAILED)
2009: Legalizing gambling at casinos in Cbus, CLE, Cincy, Toledo (53% in favor...would have FAILED)
2015: Barring businesses from using amendment process to form monopolies (51% in favor...would have FAILED)

Let's go further back now:

1923: Remove the phrase “white male” from parts of the constitution describing VOTER ELIGIBILITY (56% in favor...would have FAILED)
1933: Giving counties authority to create city charters with "home rule" (53% in favor...would have failed)
1933: Set the 10-mill property tax limit that local governments can impose without getting approval from voters (59.7% in favor...would have FAILED)
1949: Ending the practice of straight-ticket voting; voters must mark their candidates, not just check off a party (57% in favor...would have failed)
1953: Creation of Ohio state school board, which advises local school districts on education policy (57% in favor...would have failed)
1953: Allowing People of Color to serve in the Ohio National Guard (57% in favor...would have failed)
1961: Allowing Women to serve in Ohio National Guard (50.1% in favor...would have failed)
1975: Allowing charitable orgs to run bingo games, a form of gambling (54% in favor...would have failed)
1978: Prison labor reform (54% in favor...would have failed)
1982: Enabled lower-interest, first-time home-buyer programs that continue today (57% in favor...would have failed)
1990: Tax credits and other steps to help finance housing projects (53% in favor...would have failed)

[–] MajesticSloth 27 points 11 months ago

This is some great perspective on its effect, thank you.

[–] JJROKCZ 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So basically everything good in the last century wouldve failed and this law would’ve ensured Ohio would slide into the same useless bucket as Alabama on the national scale

[–] captainlezbian 13 points 11 months ago

That’s what they’re trying now. Ohio is a major state, with multiple major cities, and a long history as a swing state due to being roughly even rural/urban. Like Columbus is really queer, Cleveland is just as Great Lakes as Toronto, Detroit, and Chicago, and we’ve also got Appalachia and a lot of what you probably can’t tell isn’t rural Indiana. Add in that Columbus is a major hub for business and it’s very valuable and perceived as takable.

[–] captainlezbian 3 points 11 months ago

Man looking at some of these with the years next to them and Ohio used to be kinda based

And yeah there are other things that may desperately need to be changed about our constitution that wouldn’t clear the 60% mark even beyond abortion. Namely our constitution currently prohibits recognition of gay marriage, which while no longer an issue in the Obergefell era, may become relevant again depending on who bribes the Supreme Court.

They’re trying to force the big Cs to live at the whims of rural Ohioans despite how close the urban/rural population is

[–] [email protected] 55 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ohio is about to get real cool. The abortion vote is going to enshrine it in the Ohio consitution, but along side it, legal marijuana is also on the same ballot.

Go register and go vote!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If Ohio gets legal abortion and legal marijuana, I will officially declare that it lose it's "most mediocre state" title

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

This. Is. Wendy’s!

[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Issue 1 was bad and I'm glad to see that the voters rejected it. That they did highlights the growing disconnect from Republican politicians and Republican voters on key issues like Abortion and Marijuana.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's really spooky how the GOP doesn't seem to really care about popular opinion anymore.

That doesn't end anywhere good.

[–] Mirshe 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ohio GOP hasn't cared about the rule of law for as long as I can remember. More famously, they were ordered to draw fair voting maps multiple times running into 2016, and kept submitting maps that didn't even come close to passing muster, including submitting the exact same map twice AND submitting the current voting map.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago

This goes beyond not caring about the rule of law - they don't even care about what voters want! In a democracy that has consequences.

They seem to think that they're beyond democratic accountability entirely and can ignore popular opinion and ignore voter support.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who'da thunk that making women have their rapists' babies would be a nationally unpopular proposition? One could never have foreseen such a thing.

[–] captainlezbian 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not just women, children too. Part of how this was sold was as a “parent’s rights” thing to enable preventing minors from having abortions without parental consent.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

'If I didn't want my daughter to have a baby I wouldn't have impregnated her in the first place.'

I think that if you're in a position to make policy and your opponents are writing jokes like the one above, then surely you should be thinking about what you're doing... except I cannot feature that they're really that stupid. One thing I have heard recently is the idea that segregationists are segregating themselves by trying to make red states impossibly toxic to live in for anyone from the outgroups.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's not a theory, DeSantis outright says it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh fuck, does he? Has he started talking about secession yet?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I'm hoping for an eventual situation like in the Metalocalypse episode "Dethgov"

[–] captainlezbian 9 points 11 months ago

That’s true, but also it’s important to remember that part of that goal is to brutally suppress certain out groups. Yes they want trans people to flee, so their child doesn’t have a chance of learning that transitioning is a life path open to them. They want gay people who can’t pretend to be straight gone so every bisexual can be pressured into a hetero relationship. And when those who can leave are gone the women will be forced into submission, sometimes as child brides (multiple Republican states including West Virginia have rejected laws to ban child marriage with parental consent). The trans and gay people left will be criminals forced into sex work (conservative politicians and demagogues utilizing queer sex work isn’t just an old joke, it’s a lot of stories we tell each other). And the people of color and poor white people will be pushed into labor at young ages with low wages.

Beyond the social stuff, Ohio isn’t right to work. Unions can require membership as a condition of employment here. That right is always at risk and once Democrats are driven away it’ll be gone quite quickly.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago

Fuck the GOP and fuck anyone who supports that trash.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Every time something doesn’t go their way, they change the rules.

This quote from the resident is spot on!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago

Vote this coming election and don't let anyone tell you your vote doesn't matter!

If it didn't, the Republicans wouldn't be trying bullshit like this!

#VOTE EVERY ELECTION!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago

Because fuck you, GOP. That's why.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Always good for people when the GOP/Nazi party loses.

[–] samsepi0l -1 points 11 months ago

Also when they lose, but potato/tomato.

[–] Metatronz 13 points 11 months ago

Way to go Ohio!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Keep up this energy!

[–] dinguscod 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I only wish it was no by 60% then it would be denied by their own standards.

[–] OneThere 5 points 11 months ago

By their standards, it only needed to be no by 40%