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Neighbors say a Chicago man charged with killing an 8-year-old girl was upset over noise (apnews.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/news

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A Chicago man has been charged with first-degree murder after witnesses say an 8-year-old girl riding a scooter was fatally shot by someone upset over noise.

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[–] venorathebarbarian 68 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What do you do? As a parent what do you fucking do? How do you protect your kids from this?? What are we supposed to do? Tell them not to leave the house??

I'm in fucking tears, both for this little girl and her family and friends, and because I literally do not know how to protect my daughter from this.

Stand over outdoor playtime with a gun? Trauma Refuse to let kids play outside anymore? Trauma

My kid has already been shooting adjacent once in her life, and that list of kids grows and grows every year. Kids shot, kids siblings shot, kids friends shot, kids on lockdown because there's a shooting in the school, near the school, shootings in Walmarts, now they can't play in their front yards or ring the wrong doorbell by mistake.

The fuck, you guys? Thanks for listening so I could get that out of my system before my kid sees my face.

[–] Plagiatus 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Leave that shit hole of a country and move elsewhere. Somewhere more safe and developed, like all of Europe.

[–] derpysmilingcat 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem with that is the cost involved. Not everybody has the money or has the means to just up and go somewhere else.

[–] Plagiatus 2 points 1 year ago

I am aware. Not to mention the societal cost of uprooting your entire family, probably loosing your social circle, potentially moving to a country whose language you don't speak, etc etc.

Cost isn't the only issue with something like that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They still have to pay US taxes. USA is a hotel california situation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Which country was it? Sounds like some third world uneducated shit hole....

[–] Hyggyldy 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well ya see, all we gotta do is make sure every single person is armed at all times. (People actually believe this)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We don't know about this particular case, but to answer your question, usually there's plenty of signs before this sort of thing happens.

We could use those signs to take action, like perhaps preventing or removing guns from unstable people.

Connecting that people with social services, or law enforcement as appropriate.

But those things are hard.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Or the simple solution, dont sell guns anymore and copy europe laws.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Law enforcement is all too happy to systematically ignore them when you tell them about these signs.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Your first instinct is protect your kid with more guns? Americans literally can't imagine the simple solution of just not having guns everywhere, which has been proven effective in pretty much every other country in the world.

[–] venorathebarbarian 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You thought that was my first instinct? I felt like my first instinct was clearly to keep my kid home forever.

It was a rhetorical question, meant to highlight the insanity of the situation and the lack of options parents face just trying to let their kids be kids in safety. Bringing a gun to playtime would clearly be absurd, as would keeping my daughter inside, but you didn't feel the need to call out Americans for constantly wanting to lock up their daughters. For that one you understood irony.

My country is a fucking mess, I'm clearly already upset about it. We could even have agreed about it! But you had to read what I wrote in the weirdest, American hating way possible.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Their question was clearly rhetorical, though. Also, while a lot of Americans are clearly very frustrated with the state of gun violence/gun control in the United States, many of them feel powerless to do anything to remedy the situation outside of the standard bureaucratic processes, so the "just get rid of guns" comment is just preaching to the choir. I can throw away my hypothetical weapons and tell everyone I know to do the same, and at the end of the day I'm just as likely to be shot to death outside of my own home. Nobody loves the situation and plenty of Americans agree with you, but this is the water we swim in.

[–] toxicbubble -3 points 1 year ago

move from Chicago lol

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you have to be the one to post this, of all people?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

I was so confused until I remembered my username.

Yeeeeeah, that’s awkward, I will admit.

[–] Kandorr 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

She shoulda had a gun on her

[–] QuincyPeck 19 points 1 year ago

The American way.

[–] MushuChupacabra 22 points 1 year ago

You can get the Death Penalty for a wide variety of behaviors in the US. Playing outside, sleeping in your bed, taking a walk, having a disagreement with a neighbor, being black, going to school, shopping, attending an outdoor concert, intervening in a dispute, attempting to steer clear of a dispute, driving, etc.

[–] dethb0y 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You just never know what kind of random nuts you're gonna run into in public, that's for sure.

[–] Hazdaz -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In one of the stories I read yesterday, the mom was killed a few years back. The dad was raising her all by himself and now this happens.

You're a fucken clown if you think this murderer doesn't deserve capital punishment. He wasn't in danger. There is no question he did it. And he purposefully did it in front of the dad to see.

[–] toxicbubble 2 points 1 year ago

states with capital punishment have a higher murder rate

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Uh what does capital punishment or under solve at all? Statistically it makes murders more common, so if you really believed dislike murder the only reasonable side is against capital punishment.