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[–] [email protected] 21 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Dude, they did, under Biden's IRA. The one you just tore up.

Jesus, dude. This guy is too old, stupid and evil to lead.

[–] Cort 11 points 16 hours ago

This guy is too old, stupid and evil to lead.

Putin: perfect!

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 50 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, sure. Spend billions on moving factories to a xenophobic, undereducated, and burgeoning fascist society instead of expanding into more stable, emerging markets without an unstable fuckwit for a leader.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, that's exactly what happened with China

[–] Madison420 17 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Yeah because it was cheaper labor. The US does not have that level of cheap labor.

[–] GunValkyrie 30 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It doesn't have that level YET.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

That's also not how that works. China can get away with having cheap labor because it also has cheap cost of living. But the cost of living in the US is ridiculously high. These tariffs are only going to make the cost of living go up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Madison420 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Possibly however unlikely.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 20 hours ago

Or they can just stop providing products and services to america and expand in Asia, Europe and Australia

[–] [email protected] 20 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

I thought he was against immigration.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago

Step 1: Move to the US

Step 2: I.C.E. deports all immigrants (both lawful and unlawful ones)

Step 3: ???

Step 4: Declare Bankrupcy? (because you don't have anyone to hire, since, you know, they deported everyone)

[–] Hikermick 15 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Does he really think businesses pay the tariffs? I doubt it

[–] Madison420 7 points 21 hours ago

He knows they don't but he doesn't have to pay them and he couldn't bring himself to care about anyone else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

Are you really trying to find some logic in what Trump says? I think it should already be obvious he has no fucking clue how the economy works.

If we want to be generous with his interpretation he means that if you uproot your entire business (including production) and bring it to the US then you don't need to pay tariffs because you're making it all inside the US. Except anyone with even the slightest understand of the entire production process knows that it's effectively impossible in the timeframe he has forced upon everyone. So we still end up with him having no fucking clue what he is doing.

[–] cultsuperstar 4 points 17 hours ago

He actually thinks companies can say "hey, let's move all our shit to the US!" and they can snap their fingers and they're instantly here. Like they don't have to buy land, build factories, setup supply chains and work out logistics that would take a long time to do. Fucking moron.

Dumbass didn't learn from the Foxconn shit in Wisconsin lol

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oh, so immigrants are ok if they're companies?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Immigrants are OK if they're legal (Musk still needs his foreign workers because "Americans are mediocre and lazy" according to his friend Vivek Ramaswamy) 😂

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I thought companies were considered people in the US

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Caucasian people though. So it's okay.

[–] shalafi 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

He means he'll drop tariffs in companies start building here. Problem is, factory owners aren't stupid enough to invest in a factory that will become obsolete when these idiot tariffs are dropped.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Even if I had absolute confidence that the tariffs weren't going to get dropped there would still be no point moving a factory to the US because you would still end up paying the tariffs to get imports of components from China. Because you are definitely getting your components from China.

That's why tariffs have to be used with tact and they only target very precise items. If you want to increase the number of televisions produced in the United States you only have a tariff on completed televisions, not on displays, and not on microcontrollers. The Trump tariffs are on everything though.

[–] madcaesar 3 points 18 hours ago

Tariffs do not work.

Even if you just target one item, like this moron did with washing machines 8 years ago, what happened?

Imported washing machines went up 25% in price.

Domestically produces machines went up 25%, because why wouldn't they gauge more money??

Tariffs only hurt the consumer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

The Trump tariffs are on everything though.

Yeah, he has a tendency to just take a shotgun approach, and later see what sticks. He won't care about any fallout caused by his approach.

[–] DandomRude 107 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“Donald Trump was the dumbest goddam student I ever had.”

Professor William T. Kelley, who taught marketing at the Wharton School of Business and Finance when the orange one was a student there (source)

[–] CitizenKong 39 points 1 day ago (5 children)

He also doesn't read. Ever. The only book he is known to possess (a gift) is one with speeches by Hitler. He probably hasn't even read that one. He had also real trouble reading the teleprompter during the campaign trail and seemingly ignored it most of the time.

[–] DandomRude 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, I read that too. Not the president the US needed, as he is simply unsuitable for this office due to his lack of education alone, but apparently the one the country deserves, as he was elected despite everything everyone can and should know about him.

[–] CitizenKong 19 points 1 day ago

Over half of US citizens can't read over a sixth grade level. So he really does represent a majority of US Americans in that regard.

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[–] captainlezbian 3 points 17 hours ago

That's not true. You'll get terrified to hell and back by Canada and other reasonable countries

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump always talks like a dummy who is fed half baked ideas by someone only slightly smarter than he is.

[–] Shapillon 15 points 1 day ago

Isn't that exactly what's happening?

He sounds like a toddler who learnt a new word explained to them by their slightly older cousin.

[–] gmtom 2 points 17 hours ago

If companies move to the UK there's/actually/ not tarrifs.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice 113 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They can move to the U.S. and then pay tariffs to import the parts, and have a smaller international demand for the product do to retaliatory tariffs and just straight avoidance of U.S. products while making their product in a higher cost to operate area. OR they can build a mine, pay higher lifting costs, higher wages, produce a much more expensive product of shitty quality to keep the price hopefully low enough that they can still have a demand for the product abroad, but everyone will coorelate their American products as shit because they cut corners to try to keep the costs low enough while having higher expenses. So no one wants their product. Or they could not cut corners and make a great product that costs so much that their market shrinks down to inoperable levels and go out of business.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 day ago

You’re not getting it. He said it in ALL CAPS, so the globally-connected economy doesn’t actually exist. Tariffs punish BAD GUYS and have no effect on GOOD GUYS. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

[–] ThePantser 55 points 1 day ago

Yeah they need to move their forests and mines to the USA!

[–] expatriado 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

his audience wouldn't notice the issue with this claim

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Our president is still trying to make this moron understand that he needs to be less of a bully with his country's friends. She is the only hope, short-term, to avoid severe consequences of tariffs in North America. I hope she's got intelligence and patience for both of them.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you mean Claudia Sheinbaum? (It isn't clear who you're talking about from your comment, but she would make sense.)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes, Sheinbaum. Sorry, I thought being her the only other president in North America would make it more clear.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago

... I was wondering if it was a musk joke...

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So he wants me to migrate to the US and start a business?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

No migrate, just start business è_é

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only if your complexion allows you to use mayonnaise as foundation.

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