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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When I saw this title. I thought another YouTube hardware advocate turned their back on Louis and started an anti-consumer group to fight off policy debate that Louis does. My brain is wild.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Same but I thought Louis had a brother who became evil for some reason 😭

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Man I've had a brother printer so long because of their Linux support this is so annoying

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Same. I'm good for a while, but it's going to suck if I ever need to replace it.

[–] eric5949 1 points 21 hours ago

Great, brother are the only ones I'll still buy.

[–] TORFdot0 64 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sad to hear Louis is having family issues

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Took me three tries to figure out what was happening, then I was sad.

[–] CriticalMiss 138 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Framework printer.

Make it happen.

[–] KneeTitts 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

sorry maybe I missed a memo, people are still printing things.. like, on paper?

[–] CriticalMiss 1 points 21 hours ago

I personally don’t, on the off chance I do need to print something I do it at work.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

dude I would pay gold for that

[–] turmacar 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not saying they couldn't/shouldn't but printers are a nightmare hellscape and it's a miracle, mostly of HP's marketing department, that they're a household object.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Back before everyone had maps on their phone, printing MapQuest maps was fantastic. This was the early 00's though and we all had money to burn still.

[–] ivanafterall 100 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Brother sucks now!?

Truly, this is the canary in the coal mine moment.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Nah, that time has long passed. Brother is probably less bad than many of its competitors, but that doesn't make it good.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's just capitalism. Don't make it more then what it is.

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[–] drmoose 111 points 2 days ago (29 children)

It's funny how far ahead 3d printers are in terms of consumer experience, everything is open, everything works and the tech is like 300 times more complex.

2D printer companies should be shamed to death.

[–] TheGrandNagus 73 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Over time as 3D printers go from tinkerer's toy to household staple, I'd expect them to become more locked down and anti-consumer.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 days ago

Bambu is working on it already — can’t print unless you’re connected to the internet and send your files through their server, can’t connect to the printer with other slicers besides their slicer.

They had to walk that back some; there is now a “developer mode” where old standard functionality is still exposed, but they’re clearly working as hard as they can to turn it shitty.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

They're actually behind. 3D printers are a much newer industry. Most industries start out super open, competitive and collaborative. This speeds up development to consumer-grade products. Eventually one or two companies gain sufficient marketshare to start enforcing anti-consumer shitfuckery. Look at the recent drama with Bambu printers and you'll find that's exactly what's happening. It's a tale as old as time.

Framework actually trolled us into thinking they were going to release a printer but instead they went into a market segment where everything was already modular, repairable and upgradable and gave us something that was not, at all. But hey, they gotta capitalize on the AI nonsense too, I guess?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Welp, I guess that pen plotter I built last year is going to be my full time printer

[–] AA5B 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I rarely use a printer now that my kids are in college. When it dies, I had a choice between laser printer, Brother inkjet, or none. “None” is now my first choice

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (6 children)

That's what we did.

For the few pages we need to print, I can use the machine at the library for $0.10/page.

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[–] [email protected] 157 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Damn, Brother was the only company left I was happy to blind purchase from by name alone.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago

Brother's been anti-consumer for at least 5 years now. Not sure why people are just learning about it now.

Brother blocking 3rd party toner was the primary reason why I went with Canon back in 2020.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Now i had to put on the in-ears, hook up to phone to.... listen to a guy talking. -_-

Short summary: after he got a firmware update, the MFC 3750 of Louis Rossman prints in worse quality with aftermarket ink.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

Click the wiki link

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do we really need to crowd fund a FOSS printer? Really?

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please 71 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

You actually can’t sell third-party printers legally, because all printers will include an ink fingerprint which can be traced back to that specific printer. So if someone prints a ransom note or counterfeits cash with it, the FBI will be knocking on their door by the end of the day.

There’s literally a certification process to be allowed to sell printers, and one of the biggest criteria for that certification is agreeing to maintain that fingerprint database. One of the other big criteria is that the printer needs to be able to recognize and refuse to print images of cash, to prevent counterfeiting. If you try to print an image of a dollar bill, the printer’s firmware will refuse to continue the print job. The issue is that this certification process also ensures there’s a de facto near duopoly on printers, which leads to BS like HP making it increasingly difficult to use affordable ink. They can be blatantly anti-consumer, because they’re protected from any competition.

There’s a reason HP hasn’t already been priced out by some cheap Chinese competitor who is able to undercut the competition. And it’s not because of the difficulty in manufacturing or the price of components. It’s because no other companies are allowed to sell printers.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Inside the US, sure. That just means you don't get the cool FOSS printer.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm glad there's a printer service close to where I live, I can go there and print every page for cents. There's also one on my faculty, more expensive, but still affordable. I only use my HP printer/scanner to scan documents, ink is expensive as hell.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I no longer have any corporate relationships that aren't either apprehensive, strained, or downright antagonistic.

It's us versus them now and they've give their last shits. It's feeling like every company is a cable company now.

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[–] tyrant 93 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Are there no good guys left?

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[–] singletona 78 points 2 days ago (1 children)

...I remember Brother intnetionally making their stuff VERY user servicable.

Wha happen

[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Capitalism is the breeding ground of parasitism. The incentive structures needs to change. Good corporate governance and long term sustainability need to trump short term turnover and fiduciary role to always go up. As it exists, corporate incentive structures promote leadership by psychopaths that will go to the utmost consequence to drive the last cent out of their customers. This is especially true in the US, which by virtue of competition, metastasises to the entire western world.

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