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Summary

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, Kamala Harris’ 2024 running mate, has suggested he may run for president in 2028.

Reflecting on the Democrats’ loss to Donald Trump and JD Vance, he admitted: “A large number of people did not believe we were fighting for them in the last election – and that’s the big disconnect.”

Walz said his life experience, rather than ambition, would guide his decision.

Though his VP campaign was marred by gaffes, he remains open to running if he feels prepared.

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[–] [email protected] 190 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

The Harris campaign had to cover the governor’s tracks when he tripped up during a California fundraiser by stating that the constitutionally-mandated system used to select the president, otherwise known as the electoral college, “needs to go”.

How the hell is that a gaffe? It's both the truth and exactly what people want to hear. Any lib who thinks like that needs to kindly keep their mouths shut for the next four years. This country needs radical change, the only choice you get is which one you want.

[–] Katana314 17 points 6 hours ago

Here, let me grab a sharpie and fix that.

The Harris campaign made a cowardly attempt to walk back the governor's statements when he said during a California fundraiser that the broken election systems used for gerrymandering and enabling the double elections of Donald Trump, "needs to go".

[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 hours ago

and exactly what people want to hear

It's what people who care about democracy want to hear. That certainly isn't everyone.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Just guessing, but it might be a gaffe because it could be skewed to sound like he doesn't believe in democracy. Of course, this makes no sense because Trump has quite literally said that we might not need another election in four years.

A more careful statement might have been, "the electoral college needs to be replaced with a system where every citizen's vote has the same magnitude." If that's not the mathematical ideal of democracy, I don't know what is.

Edit: For you pedantic mathematicians, I'll add that everyone's vote should have the same magnitude, and that magnitude should be greater than zero.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

If that's not the mathematical ideal of democracy,

That is the mathematical ideal of populism.

Democracy is "government by consent of the governed"; There is no good way of democratically electing a singular individual. Which is why the presidency should be little more than a figurehead, with very little actual authority.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Walz / Kelly, Kelly / Walz, Kelly / Kelly, or Kelly / AOC.

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[–] Raiderkev 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly, he was OK as a candidate, but he didn't wow me, and he shit the bed in the debate which imo makes him a poor choice. He wasn't as bad as "they're eating the dwawgs" but he really blew it when they asked him about his time in China. All he had to say was that he was there around that time and maybe he misspoke, but what matters was the sentiment. It's a really easy question to answer instead he just fumbled his words like crazy.

He said he's notoriously bad at debating, and imo that's like saying I'm really bad at taking tests. So you are saying that you aren't good at the part where we find out what you know? You can't articulate your positions without a teleprompter? If you can't debate, then you must not be that fervent about them imo, and the person that takes on trump, (assuming we have a real election) needs to be able to call him on his bullshit to his face. I think Walz had way too much of an aww shucks vibe. He's too "Minnesota Nice". We need AOC.

[–] Katana314 19 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'm the opposite. I know that snappy comebacks on live stages are not what make a presidency great. Even if someone can't give immediate responses in a debate, I can respect them if they display anger and passion when appropriate, and reason and negotiation when that's appropriate. You might be overestimating that a president needs to be an image of perfection all the time to every single person, when our current one survived conviction as a sex offender.

[–] AstridWipenaugh 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The ability to do behind the scenes work is super important. It's half the requirement. But the other half is being able to do in the moment interactions. Look at Trump/VD with Zelenski. Being charismatic and able to handle in-person negotiations with foreign leaders is hugely important.

[–] CharlesDarwin 1 points 3 hours ago

Look at Trump/VD with Zelenski. Being charismatic and able to handle in-person negotiations with foreign leaders is hugely important.

I'm curious how you'd view that interaction? I bet those with magafied brainz think that was peak charisma, on Bronzo and "JD" "Vance"s part, while normal Americans probably look at that and think they completely shit the bed and embarrassed America.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 hours ago

He can run for the primary, like everyone else...

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 hours ago

Waltz is a Zionist

[–] [email protected] 230 points 13 hours ago (28 children)

I'm not convinced there will be an election in 2028...

[–] danc4498 2 points 5 hours ago

Even Russia has elections

[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 hours ago

There will, but it won't be a fair one. They have "elections" in Russia, too.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 hours ago (18 children)

Fuckin should have been the nominee in the first place - him or Sanders.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

Is he going to play a centrists or actually move the needle?

Don't need another "capitalist Harris"

Seemed like a genuine awesome dude, love what he's done in Minnesota but I lack faith that in the democratic party he'll do any good. That and he needs to work on debating....

Rather have AOC

That said better than most of the geriatric pandering democratic ineffective options. Even though he'll be close to 70....

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[–] A_Random_Idiot 9 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Walz/Sanders ticket, please.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Sanders is old and wants to retire. Walz/Cortez instead.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Walz won't even be at retirement age by 2028. That's practically an infant in terms of a presidential candidate.

[–] A_Random_Idiot 3 points 5 hours ago

and Sanders has an amazing ability to get Republican voters on his side.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

He's got some things going for him. Male. Presumably heterosexual. Caucasian. Old (but perhaps not quite old enough). I say go for it.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Please, do FUCKING NOT.

His debate performance was poor against Vance. We don't need a kindly father-figure running against Republicans, we need an attack dog that knows police cold, who can articulate that tax cuts cost more in tax revenues than we make up in added jobs, economic growth, etc., someone that's going to actively piss-off billionaires and then not kiss their asses once they have power... We need a leftist populist, someone that will get people fired up.

Walz is not that guy.

One lesson that I've seen in politics over and over again is Dems running the same candidate in a rematch, and the rematch always goes worse than the original election.

[–] schema 17 points 7 hours ago

I mean he can run for primary. A lot of people should. The DNC just needs to take their finger off the scale and let the actual people decide what candidate they want.

[–] CharlesDarwin 1 points 3 hours ago

Who is that guy?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t know, he might be able to do it with decent advisors.

He was the one who kicked off that “Republicans are weird” messaging campaign which was incredibly effective until establishment Democrats shut it down. If he brings that sort of energy again I’d support him.

[–] CharlesDarwin 2 points 3 hours ago

Even if it's not him that runs and takes up that mantra again, the DNC needs to stop standing on the air hose of their own candidates. The rest of the party needs to pick up that mantra, because the truth of the matter is the Republicans are VERY FUCKING WEIRD.

They are absolute freaks. Obsessed with getting everyone to follow the rules of their little book club. With controlling women. Losing sleep over where trans people poop. Obsessed with kissing the asses of freak billionaires like Musk.

More importantly, that narrative was working. People noticed. Because it is so very true and people were happy to have someone with a megaphone saying the truth like that.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (5 children)

His debate performance was poor against Vance.

it was perfectly fine? He could most definitely run well after trump, due to the classic american flip flop phenomenon. Chances are he'd win, if the public is upset enough about how trump did, which right now, isn't looking great. And probably will continue to be that way.

He's literally obama, but white.

walz has also had a historically successful career in politics? Just look at what minnesota is doing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

To be fair, the black Obama will also be running in the 2028 primary

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