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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

My uncle, from the time he was a little boy, liked nothing more than farming and gardening. He has one friend and they talk exclusively about growing stuff. He had to be forced to finish high school because all he wanted to do was wrench on a tractor. He barely talks unless it's farming related.

He apparently takes after other men in the family, always one or two per generation, who were pretty much mute except when it came to their special interest. And they were 100% focused on their special interest.

Back in the day, it was "Uncle Bob just has those family genes. We get one of them every once in a while. He sure is a helluva good farmer." Today he would be diagnosed with autism.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 hours ago

Your uncle sounds awesome.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I took one of those autism tests and I can't remember off the top of my head what the score was but it was very high which both surprises and doesn't surprise me. I mask extremely well according to most people I meet. Telling me "You seem normal" or even "You aren't autistic".

I've only had two people tell me "It's obvious" ever, my mom and a single friend of mine.

But holy hell all the other autism personality/psychological aspects are like cranked up to 100 and I have a love/hate relationship with that. Hyperfocus is a double edged sword for instance. I love that I can get super into something and get really fucking good at it but I don't love obsessing over the same thing for months to the point of it keeping me awake at night and hurting other aspects of my life because I can't change mental direction.

It also isn't good for social anxiety, way too much rumination on single awkward conversations MAKE IT STOP.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

I have a childhood friend who was very recently diagnosed with autism. We talked a little while ago and he brought it up. My first thought was "ah, yep, that explains a lot".

He's still a great friend. It didn't change anything about him, rather it helped make sense of his behaviors that we all just saw as "that's just how [friend] is".

[–] ZILtoid1991 3 points 4 hours ago

Epidemic? That means it's a contagious disease, how do I spread my autism to others? By biting them? (If you ask: I consider some vampires "autism-coded", and I might be making a game with even more autism coded vampires)

[–] wowwoweowza 10 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I’m out of the loop here. Could someone ad some context for me? What’s this about?

[–] Furbag 31 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There is an incorrect belief that autism is on the rise and that it must be caused by something, but in reality we are just getting better at identifying it and diagnosing people correctly. So it's not that there is an autism epidemic, we're just discovering that it's less rare of a condition than previously assumed.

[–] wowwoweowza 0 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

So… someone went through a great deal of trouble to share this. Why? I’m confused. What is the message and the audience? Is there something I am supposed to do?

[–] ghterve 4 points 1 hour ago

One example is anti-vaxxers claiming vaccines are causing the increase in autism. When challenged, one possible response they parrot is "well then what is the cause?". The message is that there isn't a cause because there isn't an increase in the first place

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

The message is correcting a misconception utilizing a concept most people would understand better. It isn't a call to action, just informational.

[–] AdolfSchmitler 2 points 6 hours ago
[–] Tattorack 27 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

This exoplanet pandemic is getting out of hand. We're seeing them everywhere now!

[–] Randelung 4 points 6 hours ago

Have we tried slapping them out of existence? Or just telling them to think harder and maybe that'll make them stop existing?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I heard there's also a galaxy outbreak happening as we speak

[–] Tattorack 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Jesus christ, this is so getting out of hand! We need to bother some politicians about this. What will happen to our children!?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

It's probably a reading error that will go away if we ignore it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 hours ago

I just want to take the moment to say, nice to have you all around, especially if you are different. Thanks for enjoying the shit that I don't. And thanks for sharing my love for something for a different reason. Thanks for showing me a different world.

Also If everyone was like me, my girlfriend wouldn't be who she is, but ignoring that, I would have a lot of competition and it would be really boring for all of us. Wtf do you talk about if we all would be the same? I would hate you all, and consequently myself. Thanks for being different, seriously.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

I will argue that the mild part of the autism spectrum, what we call functional autism, is not a mental illness, not a disorder.

It's like being left handed, not the most common thing, it can cause troubles in a world made for right handed people, specially if being left handed is not accepted. But by itself is just another way of being just as "healthy" and "normal" as being right handed.

I think this is an open debate. Some folks prefer it being considered an illness because they want diagnosis and treatment. Others, like me, just love to be this way, and there's nothing I think is wrong with me. The only problem is that the world is not accommodated for people like me, just like it wasn't accommodated for left-handed people not so long ago. But as soon as it's 100% accepted as something normal I don't see it causing any trouble, so if there's no harm there's no illness we can talk about.

[–] jj4211 2 points 4 hours ago

Hell, I'd even go so far as to say it might not be worth a specific categorization, that everyone is a bit different and we don't need to pigeonhole every state of reasonably normal into little categories. Ever since Asperger's was popularized, we had a big chunk of people that are not especially far from normal latching onto this.

If it doesn't need particularly special treatment/accommodation, then it's not really worth a category. If someone feels like not dealing with people, needing a bit of a break from it, then that shouldn't need to be correlated to a condition. By the same token, it can't be an excuse for being unreasonable to others when you are perfectly capable of being reasonable, you just don't like doing so. If you misread someone's non-verbal cues, whether or not you have a "condition", people should understand that's just a possibility of everyday life.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Absolutely! In fact, I'd argue that this is true for many conditions that we treat as disabilities, like dyslexia (which is rarely disabling) and the aforementioned autism. Both of these conditions have disadvantages and advantages. The situation is not black and white; simply because society was designed one way, does not mean that everyone who does not perfectly fit in is disabled or has a illness.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

What’s an advantage of dyslexia?

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[–] bouh 3 points 7 hours ago

Wholeheartedly agree with this! IMO our societies have a big problem with people being different.

That's my opinion, but I attribute this liberalism: when the society's philosophy is to attribute 5he responsibility of anyone's success on each self person, it means the responsability to fit in is on the person itself and not on the society. This removes the burden of inclusion from the society, the group, and make it a burden of adaptation on the person. It is a toxic societal environment.

As an argument to this point of view: making it an illness provide a justification for the person to be different, and a responsability for the society to accommodate disabled people. But the need to go to this extreme instead of simply being tolerant and accommodating any difference is both stupid (because it is a burden for both the victims and the society to hold discussions about basic needs) and a inhuman way of treating people.

Another argument to my thesis is that the "epidemic" is coincidental with societal individualism (pushed by liberalism and that rose since the end of ww2) and the decline of social structures like church and government help (because liberalism was about fighting government involvement in people's lives).

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (8 children)

The tldr for this is Neurodiversity

Almost all disabilities exist only within the context of a culture. They are a human applied label.

I recon most disabled people can do more advanced complex tasks than any animal/pet. Yet we do don't think of our pets as disabled.

We are all born with a useless appendix, which can potentially burst and kill us. If someone was born without. Would we all have a disability compared to them.

Someone with only one arm is considered disabled, extra fingers? If its not the default it’s considered disabled.

Now imagine a humanoid alien race with only 1 arm and a hand with 6 fingers. And imagine what their keyboards may look like. A normal human in their society would be considered disabled. Not because you cant use the keyboard but because you would struggle using a tool not designed for you.

Now the reason why you still want a diagnosis even when you agree with the above is simple. Society has not evolved this perspective. We can accommodate almost all disabilities but they key to getting that help is by first bureaucratically “registering” yourself as disabled by a medical professional.

[–] bouh 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I disagree on the last paragraph. Not so long ago helping disabled people was an obvious thing to do in our societies. I'm not saying it was easy for them or that it always worked. But in the last 70 years our societies changed to remove any help that wasn't justified. The reason was simply to save money.

Now you must justify that you are different and this difference warrant a different treatment. Because the society became intolerant to difference.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

Might be a different comment in the chain where i mentioned i don't agree with this either but if i want the accommodation today then thats my reality.

I am a firm supporter of moving to a needs first society, not because i have a plan to make things sustainable but because the current system where we sell human survival to corporate greed isn’t doing us many favors.

[–] ZMoney 12 points 10 hours ago

Real quick the appendix might have an evolutionary function. When you have a gut infection and your intestine flushes out everything (good and bad bacteria), the appendix might be a cache for good bacteria that avoids both the infection and flushing. The good bacteria then repopulate your gut from your appendix.

[–] dustyData 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

100% the individual conditions make us different but the challenges and obstacles to everyday life that some different people may face originate on the social environment they exist in, not on the individual. If the society and environment change to accommodate for greater diversity then the person can more easily overcome the disability.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There is no "but" that is what i said in different words.

[–] dustyData 2 points 6 hours ago

The but wasn't referring to your comment. I agree with you. Was just expanding on the concept that disability lies in society, not the person.

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