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Tesla's European sales dropped 45% in January, with market share falling from 1.8% to 1%.

This decline comes as CEO Elon Musk faces backlash over his political interventions, including support for Germany’s far-right AfD and ties to Donald Trump’s administration.

Tesla sales plummeted in Germany and France, and it trailed Chinese EV rival BYD in UK registrations.

Despite Tesla’s slump, Europe’s electric vehicle market grew by 34%, with Germany, Belgium, and the Netherlands posting strong gains.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 3 days ago (1 children)

ties to trump is the problem ? not the fucking nazi salute at a political function? twice? I mean fuck both options and musk but man he needs a punch to face. I forgot my point.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

man he needs a punch to face.

I thought you made a pretty good point. A punch each for him and his army of little DOGEshits.

[–] lemmus 10 points 3 days ago

Backpfeifengesicht.

[–] ripcord 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A punch in his face for each person in his army, yes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

We're gonna need a bigger fist.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 3 days ago

You know, Trump is horrendous but somehow, I think having ties to Musk may be worse than having ties to Trump at this point.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He's not facing 'criticism over Trump ties'. He's facing outrage over being a fucking Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Thank you. I utterly despise the cowardice of the media to call out fascists for what they are. Definitely one of the big reasons we got to where we are now.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Who in the fuck is still buying this shit I can’t imagine the crossover between afd voters and electric car buyers is particularly big to be honest

[–] ripcord 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In the US, sooooo many people are still buying them.

The same people still using Twitter I guess. And can't be added to switch because otherwise how are they going to follow some celebs or some shit; no worries that they're supporting Hitler.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

They are terrible cars with wild quality control issues. And they are expensive.

The fun part will be how they will charge them after trump bans ev chargers

[–] MonsterMonster 40 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I wondered if Tesla was to disappear it would be because of Chinese EV competition. I never thought it would be because Musk would reveal himself as a right wing fascist knobhead.

[–] SlopppyEngineer 36 points 3 days ago (2 children)

China is Sun Tzuing so hard right now. “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake”

[–] shroomato 3 points 2 days ago

I'm scared that the world is going to run out of popcorn because the Chinese are going to eat all of it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

It was Napoleon who said something similar to that quote, but the point stands.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I bet a bunch of CEOs are fascists, but they know that letting it come out is bad for business.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think most CEOs understand that your brand should not be tied to you personally.

[–] jaybone 3 points 3 days ago

This seemed to really come out with small businesses during the pandemic. Where small business owners like for restaurants and shops would openly advertise (to put it mildly) their stance on masking which in turn tied into their political beliefs.

I always thought that was dumb, (in a two party system) as you were effectively alienating half of your potential customers.

[–] 0x7466 19 points 3 days ago

Their stock is also plummeting pretty hard right now 👏

[–] makyo 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The board: that sounds to us like time to give Elon another bonus

[–] d00phy 4 points 3 days ago

Seems likely.

[–] lupusblackfur 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Waiting for Tesla to oust him as CEO for conduct contrary to the financial health of the company (read: shareholders).

🤷‍♂️ 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago

The shareholders are all huge Elon sycophants. If they haven’t ousted him over any of the previous shit he did, I have zero faith they’ll do it now.

If anyone has Tesla stock, dump it now before you lose everything.

[–] Supervivens 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Considering almost the entirety of the stocks value is tied up in musk and has almost no correlation with the actual success of Tesla and they’ve literally gone out of their way to force a 56 billion pay package through for Musk, I highly doubt it.

Edit: for reference, the company is worth the next 15 car makers prices combined and probably has less sales than all of them

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

I believe we will get down to about 25% of what they were selling this year.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Shocking news... that 55% of European Tesla buyers don't know or don't care about Elon's egregious public Nazi displays.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

Meanwhile the shareholders: "yes, this guy totally deserves $56b!!"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Ewww— a Tesla. Gross.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Are you sure it wasn't the nazi salute?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My body is ready for him to get pushed the fuck out of the company

[–] vinyl 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm ready for him to get ejected back into space

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

We can dream of a timeline where SpaceX and Tesla decide to put Elon himself into the next Roadster they fire into space.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] vinyl 2 points 3 days ago

Yea, he seems like an otherworldly being

[–] givesomefucks 4 points 3 days ago

If you're a federal employee with TSP:

The C fund includes Tesla, it's very unlikely to convince the fund manager (Black Rock) to drop Tesla, but you can still move to a different fund.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

There's no doubt a sales drop due to Musk, but all their factories aren't producing and selling their best model (Y) due to the upgrade, and people have also put off buying a Tesla knowing it was about to happen at the start of 2025.

We won't know the true drop until that vehicle is ramped up at all the factories, which means we won't have proper QoQ numbers until q3 or q4, but I imagine at the month level we might see comparable numbers somewhere in q3.