Better than nothing, but not good enough. Please visit your local government buildings and get involved. Not buying Teslas won't make a difference like actual difference-making will.
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Why is the focus on musk? He’s not the root problem. Trump is the one who gave him power, even if m is removed, t will put another big donor in power.
You know how we "make an example" out of people who do things we don't like?
We need to make an example out of billionaires that put up hundreds of millions of dollars to manipulate elections. Billionaires and big business should have no place in politics.
So the purpose is to change the law that allows unlimited donations? It’s kind of too late…. Do you not remember the inauguration photo of trump surrounded by billionaires? He doesn’t care about the law, no one can touch him. The us is a dictatorship now. The old way of thinking needs to change. We need new strategies.
Trump doesn’t care about his ratings. He doesn’t care about the protesters, and is waiting for things to get “out of control” so that he’ll enact martial law. T will keep giving billionaires taxpayer money, whether or not the citizens want him to, and whether or not the citizens are buying their products.
Later: "Due to the struggling stock market and their essential nature to the economy, we have no choice but to bail out Tesla Motors."
Hear me out. Tesla makes (or at least made) innovative cars, they persued their vision of electric vehicles and made EVs a commonplace option for the average consumer. They needed Musk's capital to do that. They are still capable of doing great things... But not with Elon at the helm. The best thing we can do, even if you like your Model 3, or even your damn Cybertruck, is to get Elon out of Tesla.
That means boycotts. Don't use their chargers, don't rent or buy their cars, don't subscribe to their full-self driving, and black them out on social media.
Yeah I got a tesla and still retain my stocks in tesla from years back. Ever since I realized how shitty Elon is, I haven't bought any more. Though, I haven't pulled out either because elon can be replaced, and I think the company is still capable of innovation.
I'm not really qualified to give stock advice, but from what I understand, Tesla's stock price is seriously over-valued for what they produce, and a large chunk of it's price is speculation on what Elon is going to do. When it becomes clear to even the dumbest investor that Elon is toxic, that shit is going to tumble fast. IMO, it's a big wave that has to crash down at some point. Sell high.
Not a stock market expert though, talk to someone who knows their shit about it.
Even if Musk gets fired, he'll still own a huge percentage of the stock. If the goal is to hurt his net worth, then the boycott shouldn't end with his dismissal.
Agreed. He should be separated from shares (imho) before any person should feel good about helping out Tesla.
Tesla is done anyway, they desperately need to cheat with tarrifs and rules to keep moderately competing with the Chinese.
And even then they are of far lesser quality and more expensive.
The billions in subsidies this clown has gotten for his cars he is now getting in bigger quantities as a military contractor.
Starlink and SpaceX are getting massive government contracts.
This can only help some of these protesters conscience, as if they're doing something.
Focus on millionaires. Not just musk
Focus on all billionaires. Not just Musk.
FTFY
Why set the bar too high?
I'm trying to stay more realistic.
Anyone at shy above 1 million USD living in the US is having a live that's closer to the average person than it is to a billionaire let alone Musk.
Apparently, it's about 18% of households.
And much of that is the value of the home they live in and pension funds.
I'd wager most millionaires don't even know they're millionaires.
And that's why it's harder to get support for such an approach, while support for taxing billionaires should be available in abundance.
Yes. I like what I think is Bernie's idea. The sentiment is basically do everything possible to tax all income and assets over one billion. Tell those crying for billionaires to shut up because surely people can live on assets of $999,999,999.00.
Maybe readjust for inflation every decade or so. Even if it got negotiated down to something like a cap of 5 billion or 10 billion, this would still be good for America. Someone with assets like Elon, and Bezos and Zuck, etc. should not even exist, even if most of those assets are supposedly "only" on paper. Surely, though, being someone with just under a billion or just under 5 or just under 10 should provide enough "motivation" for all the future supposed "job-creators" that we always hear so much about.
Surely, having 999 million is better than whatever they started with and we should all acknowledge they didn't make all that themselves. They have a huge working government (or they did at one point, we'll see what we are left with after Bronzo the Clown is done) that helped them, along with many, many workers making that money. They should show GRATITUDE for that by helping to further sustain that system, not just leech from it and be able to buy politicians that actively work to make it worse for those not in the billionaire class.
Million? That's like 2 houses or a small truckload of eggs.
Are you joking? If you own 2 houses or are buying truckloads of eggs, we definitely need to redistribute your wealth.
And probably criminal charges too
no no, two houses OR a truckload of eggs, I don't have either, I'm just sayin a million don't go as far as it used to.
Tesla has become the official automobile brand of magastan. When you see one rolling down the road, or more likely stuck in 2 inches of snow, at least you'll know where its owner stands on things like equality and the new national norm of fascism.
Cybertrucks, maybe. But the sedans were, for a long time, the only real EV game in town. Owning them now does nothing to enrich Musk, and selling them does nothing to harm him. In fact, a mass selloff (of vehicles, not shares) may very well be helpful to his bottom line, since if you increase the used stock you make buying a dealer-new Tesla more attractive (when a bunch of them sit on a dealer lot all shiny, they're essentially advertisements). Plus, if you replace one with a gas vehicle, you're enriching the petroleum lobby that also helped put ~~Musk~~ Trump in office.
Tesla owners who care about making a difference should reduce waste by hanging on to their vehicles until they're falling to pieces (which won't take long in the case of the cybertruck), and then replace it with a low-cost EV made by someone else. In the meantime, cancel any recurring subscriptions on the vehicle, put a meaningful statement of resistance on the bumper, drive it to protests and campaign events for non-fascist candidates, and use it to contribute significant mutual aid within your community.
Even at this point, I doubt it. Many might be people that bought in before they knew who and what Musk is and are just riding it out. I'm not sure what the used market is like for Tesla right now, but even with normal depreciation, selling a used car and trying to find a comparable replacement may set you back.
As a Tesla owner, this is 100% untrue. I'm extremely progressive and LGBTQIA+. I now HATE Musk and I'm exactly the kind of person Musk hates. I bought a Tesla when Musk was in his "seems a bit crazy but wasn't a Trump supporter or a Nazi" phase. Many people bought them being even less aware of his antics until recently.
My financial situation, leaving the US in a few months, makes selling it and buying another vehicle a very stupid idea. Others are now underwater on their loans since their value has taken a shit. I have friends who own Teslas that like their cars and don't want to sell just because the CEO turned out to be a Nazi fuck.
It's easy to paint people with a broad brush, but it's the same lazy ideology the MAGAs use. Be better.
Edit: I'm glad the value is tanking, but I'd rather Musk be ousted or, better yet, be given a little impromptu extra ventilation in his braincase. I love/loved my car but now it's tainted and I hate that.
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I can never tell if you lot are just your typical purity testing Americans, well meaning but dimwitted „allies" or trolls sewing divisiveness amongst actual allies. Regardless, this rhetoric is indicative of why your country is imploding.
Our country is imploding because it pivoted hard towards fascism. I'm not trying to call out well-meaninged folks in the process, but blaming fellow liberals for associating the Tesla brand with Nazis is not a genuine sentiment. This is Musk's and MAGA's fault exclusively.
For those who regrettably went Tesla before all this mess and aren't in a position to sell, put a bumper sticker on it, or find another way to show your disdain for what's happening. Again, you can't blame people for using tools like speech and economy. And, ignoring what's happening is a self-defeating endeavor that only results in normalization.
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