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Air Force Has Troops Remove Names, Unit Patches from Uniforms During Deportation Flights (www.military.com)

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 30 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Same thing they did when beating up and shooting BLM.

Edit: It’a really hard to find any report on the events during the BLM protests. I distinctly remember many mentions of the LEOs involved in shooting “rubber bullets” at protesters and beating them not having any identifying information on them. No names, no agency tags, nothing.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/politics/law-enforcement-badges-protests/index.html

[–] [email protected] 10 points 17 hours ago

Wasn't it like that for several days, nobody even knew who is abducting people from the street?

[–] Whats_your_reasoning 62 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No names, no unit numbers, no way to definitively recognize any given individual at a glance?

So... hypothetically... someone who's not part of one of the active units, but who has the uniform, the ability to act the part, and the information required to make it happen, might be able to blend in with the oppressors during a military operation? Hmm.

o but pfft don't listen to me. I'm just a wild-talking stoner with ADHD

#stonerthoughts #hypothetical #justgirlythings #lol

[–] [email protected] 27 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

If someone's got all that, then they're active military members. Also, the squadron would instantly recognize you as a new face and you'd suddenly become the center of attention within minutes. Even if you have a convincing story, everyone wants to know where you sit in the chain of command. Hell, the way civilians stand would make you stick out.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Sometimes, even active military members disagree with what they're being made to do. If multiple units interact for the first time, would a new face still stand out? What if a person isn't dressed the part long enough to even be spoken to? Or if someone in this scenario has military experience?

These questions are rhetorical, of course. I left the details open-ended in the first comment for a reason - I don't know what exactly is going to happen every minute in the coming future. But, I can imagine scenarios occurring where lacking immediate and accurate ID of an individual in uniform can be taken advantage of. That's all.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Going without identifying markings isn't anything new. OSI & special forces operate like that all the time already. Every single military member is going to have a CAC card and generally you'd be integrated with some unit. Outsiders stick out because no one seems to interact with them or know them. Military members are trained to identify and call out people that don't belong. In the air force the saying used is "every airman is a sensor". Basically, civilians, even if wearing the uniform correctly (hard to do) stick out because their mannerisms are all wrong. The way you put away/put on your cover (hat) looks weird if you haven't done it thousands of times.

Active military members are accounted for. You can't just "pop off to the Mexican border real quick".

I just don't really see the scenario that you're trying to insinuate.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning 1 points 12 hours ago

You make strong points. Thank you for providing that insight.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

As a person from a military family, they'd clock you instantly. Once you live among military people, you begin to be able to spot who is or isn't military instantly. Even not being in the military myself, I can almost always at least guess their branch and get within a rank or 2. I've never seen my dad not get branch and exact rank within a couple seconds of talking to someone

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

On the other hand, I am a disabled adult who has never served or even been eligible for military service and yet I am still asked a handful of times a year 20 years after the last traumatic event I experienced if I have served, and with what branch. It's not always a sure thing. Traumatized neurodivergent people get close enough to fool some.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes 4 points 22 hours ago

This comment is a delight.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Are we the baddies?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 23 hours ago

Always have been 🌍👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

[–] ripcord 5 points 23 hours ago

I mean - yes.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

So like a secret police force? Hmmm where have I heard that term before...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

One might call it a secret state police. Or maybe 'Protection Squad' or something. Maybe it'd sound cooler in German.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

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[–] DreamlandLividity 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

I am not sure leaving now and letting people who may not have scruples about illegal orders remain is a good idea. If anything, it may be the opposite.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Hopefully, if the information gets out and enough people walk away, it would severely limit the ability of those who remain to do awful things.

[–] 800XL 1 points 9 hours ago

In that event, fascist cops just deputize any and all white supremicist civilians they can and give them carte blanche to commit violence.

[–] DreamlandLividity 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Good people with guns limit the ability of awful people to do awful things. Good people who give up their guns, not as much.

[–] 800XL 2 points 9 hours ago

Exactly why (if you can) you should be buying weapons to protect yourself and your loved ones. Protect is the key word.

[–] stickly 4 points 21 hours ago

Unless you're talking about 90%+ of the force resigning, they won't struggle to backfill with poorly train and radicalized militia LARPers. Probably a much worse situation

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, they are considered unlawful combatants? And therefore do not get the protections afforded under the Geneva Conventions, right?

Right?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Talk about jumping 4 steps down the road.

They are uniformed. No global convention or agreement mandates those elements be on a uniform. The nametag, unit patch, and other items on the uniform are just ways that force happens to enhance identification within the unit.

They are identified as uniformed members of a military force. This satisfies the convention.

None of this matters or applies at all given that there is no combat occurring that would fall under the Geneva convention. So they could be plain clothes officers and it wouldn’t apply.

Trump is a sack of dog turds, and what he is doing is largely stupid speed run overreach, but this hyperbolic shit just harms credibility of the already massive list of shit he is violating.

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Next you'll tell me they're wearing pointy white "balaclavas".

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ICE is already wearing non-pointy ones to hide their faces while they illegally detain people.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Makes sense, they don't want to be pointed out from a lineup for just following orders.

[–] [email protected] 115 points 1 day ago

The reenactment would be more convincing if they arranged the aircraft to look like train cattle cars and packed the deportees more tightly inside.

[–] HappySkullsplitter 14 points 1 day ago

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago (2 children)

https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Air-Force-Senior-Leaders/

Pick one. Assign blame.

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[–] PugJesus 35 points 1 day ago

Fuck's sake

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