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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 15 points 11 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (5 children)

"Heavily integrated into eBay" except it isnt any more.

Firstly the article is a year and a half old but although you can still use PayPal on eBay to say it is heavily integrated is bullshit. EBay started moving away from PayPal years ago and at this point have integrated their own systems linking to your bank account to take the place of what they used to use PayPal for.

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[–] kitnaht 96 points 1 day ago (21 children)

You literally cannot escape these companies, they own everything. Every brand of every everything, and you've got a large corporation in there somewhere in the shadows. That's why they tell you to separate the art from the artist, because it's been made impossible to boycott anything.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (20 children)

Really? Maybe true for things like Nestlé but I don't use any of these services directly and it hasn't been difficult.

[–] CosmoNova 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Chances are you‘re using AWS by Amazon daily and likely use an Apple or Google phone too. I personally don‘t think Paypal is worse than those. It‘s sheer impossible to escape them without ditching the Internet altogether.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

AWS

You can choose a different service for your own hosting needs.

The same is true of PayPal. I've been banned for years (not sure why, maybe my account was compromised?), and it's never been an issue, I just pick a different payment method. I use Venmo occasionally, but Zelle also works for most uses, or I can bring cash or a check.

I don't think I've ever been in a situation where I only have a single payment option.

[–] wreckedcarzz 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

But you can't pick what others use for hosting, and the majority of big corps use AWS. At least that's the nudge that I think they were getting at.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

True, my point is to focus on things you can control.

[–] QualifiedKitten 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Isn't Venmo owned by PayPal?

Edit: Oh shit, duh. Totally forgot what thread I was commenting on.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago

Yes. But was talking about PayPal brands specifically. Let's not forget musk's involvement with the early days of PayPal. That's always been a turn off for me too.

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[–] FlowVoid 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I can easily avoid every company owned by PayPal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

And use what? Mastercard? Visa? Your local bank institute?
All are deep into shit of gambling our money (financial speculation) for profit.

[–] FlowVoid 1 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I don't care if companies speculate or if they make a profit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Well...I don't see any interests arriving on my end. At best maybe 0.25%
Meanwhile 2nd yacht or whatever.

[–] FlowVoid 0 points 4 hours ago

You can get much better rates if you are willing to lock your savings in for at least few months. Short term treasury bonds are 4-5% right now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

And if I don't like Visa or MasterCard, I can use Discover or American Express. In fact, I don't like MasterCard (got caught sharing data with Google), so I switched to other cards (probably just as bad, but it's about sending a message).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wish I could say the same, I use PayPal very frequently because my credit union doesn’t support debit-visa. With PayPal I can make payments with my bank online rather than use my cc.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Looking through Amazon alternatives... they all suck so far. Though this Etsy alternative looks interesting:

https://artisans.coop/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Never saw a .coop before. Unfortunately chicken.coop is reserved :(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Idk much about it, but what about DecentraShop?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

It looks like it might be one of those blockchain-based marketplaces. I noticed there were a handful of those on AlternativesTo. I skipped em because I have no interest in supporting blockchain stuff.

[–] ZILtoid1991 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Any alternatives to PayPal?

[–] Snapz 8 points 1 day ago

Depends on which function you want to replace?

[–] MITM0 3 points 1 day ago

Also you need to invest in alternatives

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This site provides absolutely no evidence of any of its claims and even includes the following little gem in the FAQ section on that page:

Is PayPal Safe?

Yes, all Paypal transactions are encrypted. Plus, it has two-factor authentication and fraud protection.

Safe for its customers, or safe for PayPal?

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