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Donald Trump is pressuring Jordan and Egypt to accept his plan to relocate nearly 2 million Palestinians from Gaza, threatening to cut U.S. aid if they refuse.

His proposal, which aims to transform Gaza into "the Riviera of the Middle East," has sparked backlash from Middle Eastern leaders, including Jordan’s King Abdullah II.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio is engaging regional leaders but has avoided confirming whether Palestinians could return.

Analysts argue Trump’s approach risks further destabilizing the region and undermining U.S. influence in Middle East diplomacy.

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[–] FlyingSquid 76 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What really bothers me more than anything else is that when this inevitably happens and those resorts are built on top of human corpses, thousands, if not millions, of people will absolutely not give a shit and flock to them every year for decades. From the moment they get built, they will have no problem with vacancies.

I want to be wrong, but I have absolutely no faith left in humanity.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dubai already exists and it is also built on human suffering and death. Tourists flock there.

You are sadly correct, it will be another rich persons playground. Trump just wants his own Dubai.

[–] FlyingSquid 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I am super desperate for a job right now to the point that I have done things like hold my nose and apply for jobs at Crypto and AI companies and even Phillip-Morris because I know it won't be forever.

But there is a company that keeps advertising for a remote job for a company based in Dubai that I am qualified for and applying for that is just going too far. Even too far when I'm willing to apply for a job at Phillip-Morris. Maybe eventually I'll have to do it, but I really hope not.

[–] benignintervention 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I got a Mozilla plug-in just to block Data Annotation Tech because they have a thousand jobs listed under different names for what is essentially the same AI training job. Super sketchy and they only pay through PayPal

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that is a massive red flag. If you want to pay me, it better be direct deposit.

[–] divineslayer 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What sort of work do you do?

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 day ago

Media production, post-production and content creation. For the last 20+ years.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I know the feeling... I'm going through the same right now.

The worst part about it all is that we can "vote with our wallet" all we want, it doesn't change much if we all have to work for the same companies we're trying to boycott. Our labor does way more for them than our individual purchases.

I've said for years people need to vote with their paycheck, but we're getting fucking crushed and there's few choices left.

I remember literally getting into an argument with an corporate AT&T employee on reddit after the reveal of Room 641A. I argued that their labor was directly allowing this kind of shenanigans to happen, and if they really had a problem with it like they said, they needed to find a different job.

Back then things were still good enough that sort of thing might have made a difference. We're all under The Boot now.

[–] Soup 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also “voting with your wallet” only works if you have enough money to make the choice regardless of whether or not those choices exist. I’d love to buy Canadian made products crafted by small businesses for everything I do but sometimes I just can’t afford it. Sometimes I’ll just not buy the thing, of course, but other times it can’t be avoided.

Conservatives will shit all over someone for complaining and then not “putting their money where their mouth is” but if you buy anything other than the cheapest shit you’re “irresponsible and shouldn’t complain about low wages if you’re gunna buy a brandname bag of chips”. It’s so exhausting.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Absolutely. Lots of people are in poverty and literally cannot afford to vote with their wallet anymore.

Further, the whole "no ethical consumption under capitalism" thing. Once in a while someone just needs something comforting and their individual act of purchase alone isn't enough to say they're the problem. Especially if they're not spending money on such things at such places very often.

At some level we still need to allow people some small comforts, even if those small comforts come at a social cost. The social cost of being in complete discomfort and not being able to relax is pretty high in comparison to the social cost of a single purchase.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

There were all those corpses for the ?Qatari? World Cup, tons of people still went. :(

[–] Pilferjinx 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Guaranteed. Most of the worlds population simply just doesn't care about Palestinians. Every time I bring it up in conversation, it's always met with an indifference "yeah, that's terrible"

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Many people on Lemmy do not care about Palestinians. Oh, sure, they claim they care while pointing fingers and accusing people of supporting genocide, but lately I've been asking if people will write an email to a politician or a celebrity or a business leader, anyone who has the ability to talk to the media, and ask them to use that ability to talk about the plight of Palestinians. One person, and not a person I asked directly, said they would email their Senator.

And at this point, I have to wonder how many of the people right now very happy to accuse others of supporting genocide will be sitting on a private beach at a resort in Gaza because, "I know it's really terrible what happened here, but it was such a bargain!"

[–] gAlienLifeform 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

lately I've been asking if people will write an email to a politician or a celebrity or a business leader, anyone who has the ability to talk to the media, and ask them to use that ability to talk about the plight of Palestinians

It's almost like after months of having their concerns dismissed and being called Russian plants or whatever else people aren't inclined to engage in political action alongside the ~~kinda~~ kinds of people who they think said those things. Oh well, at least this is just a silly thing that happens on social media and doesn't have any relevance at all to the Democratic party's ability to turn out votes or anything /s

e; fixed a typo and added some words to make my point clearer

[–] FlyingSquid -1 points 1 day ago

Yes, giving up because it's hard and people are meanies and just endlessly arguing about an election that ended months ago is what you and others have decided is the plan on Lemmy. I have already noted it.

I can see you will not be rising to that challenge to email anyone.

[–] BrokenGlepnir 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh they never emailed them even when they were loud. I did, but I don't know if they cared.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 day ago

They may not care, but actually trying is better than pointing fingers at each other. Unfortunately "point fingers at each other" seems to be what people prefer in general.

[–] Doomsider 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Did he not considering the staggering cost to relocate and then take care of millions of people? The logistics, rehousing, and stabilization could cost 50k per person easily. That could be 100 billion dollars initially and that is just the start of the cost.

Who is going to pay for this stupid poorly thought up plan. Oh wait, I get it, the poor American worker. Looks like it is time to tighten our belts so Aotus can start his next beach front development gig.

[–] Jhex 3 points 23 hours ago

Lol trump?? Thinking??? Lol

[–] TheBat 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Aid from US? The same one Space Karen is destroying? He's threatening to withhold something that is most likely to discontinue in the very near future?

Art of the deal, indeed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

All aid was shut down EXCEPT for aid to Egypt and Israel.

Egypt will be destroyed without US aid, which is why it wasn't stopped. However, it likely will be destroyed if it accepts Trumps deal. Same with Jordan.

Which is why they won't accept it, no matter what.

[–] Docus 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I doubt Egypt will be destroyed without US aid. EU aid alone is twice the US figure and some Arab countries also provide significant amounts. It will hurt a bit, sure. But accepting 2 million palestinian refugees would also hurt.

[–] Mrkawfee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's true the last thing Europe needs is hundreds of thousands of more migrants. Last time that happened the continent lurched to the far right and this time it's already in the far right zone.

[–] kinther 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine they accept the refugees, then a rug pull happens and aid stops anyway

[–] troglodytis 1 points 1 day ago

Have ya met us? It's what we do

[–] FauxPseudo 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn't he already withholding aid?