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Obama warns of Trump’s political strengths in private talk with Biden (www.washingtonpost.com)

submitted 1 year ago by YoBuckStopsHere to c/politics

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[–] flossdaily 67 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The issue really isn't Trump. The issue is Trump's supporters.

It literally does not matter what Trump does or says. Truly. Their support is UNCONDITIONAL.

Trump is inarticulate. He has no policy platform. He has almost no accomplishments from his first term.

Then of course there is all the crime. He's been found in civil court to have raped a woman. He confessed to cheating a charity.

And now he stands accused of the most unAmerican crimes you can imagine: conspiracies against the US to steal classified documents, and to overthrow an election that he KNEW he lost.

Can we give Trump any credit for being a formidable candidate when literally nothing he does matters? Kill a baby? They'd just vilify the baby.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of the few times he ever uttered the truth was when he said "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters."

[–] flossdaily 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

His covid response killed hundreds of thousands of people.

His insurrection cost multiple lives.

What he's done is way worse than shooting someone in the street.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Every covid responses in the whole world killed hundred of thousands, even in China with draconian measures.

[–] asteriskeverything 5 points 1 year ago

Some countries at least tried. Are you saying every other country took measures that caused higher death rates, infection rates, etc?

Trump was ANTI take measures. And thus more Republicans died because the cult hivemind was that none of that is helpful at best and actively harmful at worst. Even actively mocking how dorky masks look.

And please let us not forget that he suggested injecting bleach. I'm never letting this go and have to mention whenever relevant.

[–] flossdaily 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, I'm not speaking in generalities. These were the findings of a highly respected medical journal. https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/10/us-coronavirus-response-donald-trump-health-policy

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He would love to claim credit for the COVID vaccines. But you and I know all he did was sign off on something others put in front of him.

[–] flossdaily 13 points 1 year ago

I would give him some credit for operation Warp Speed, except for two things:

The only part of the accelerated vaccine development that was actually supposed to be handled by the Trump was the distribution of vaccines. And as we know from the Biden administration, even when Trump was kicked out of office, they still didn't even have a PLAN for vaccine distributions!
Trump undercut the entire vaccine effort by failing to promote the vaccine when it was done, and generally treating all of COVID-19 as a hoax. We could not achieve herd immunity because the MAGA base would not vaccine. Hundreds of thousands of deaths occurred as a direct result of Trump sending mixed messages about the vaccine, and legitimizing the notion that covid was a partisan issue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Don't stick your dick in crazy. Its hard to break away.

[–] xc2215x 1 points 1 year ago

Very true. Trump's supporters will defend anything he does.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:

At the lunch, held in late June in the White House residence, Obama promised to do all he could to help the president get reelected, according to two people familiar with the meeting, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversation.

That commitment was a welcome gesture for the White House at a time when Biden is eager to lock down promises of help from top Democrats, among whom Obama is easily the biggest star, for what is likely to be a hard-fought reelection race.

The White House said there was no specific agenda for the June 27 meeting, and people briefed on the conversation said the two presidents discussed a range of political, policy and personal matters, including updates about their families.

He also appeared in nontraditional settings aimed at connecting with young voters, such as ESPN’s Manningcast during Monday Night Football, collaborations with TikTok influencers and an interview during the NBA Finals.

As he left the White House after the lunch in June, Obama completed his first task to help Biden’s reelection campaign: filming a short video to help the president with online fundraising.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Good bot!

[–] Spacebar 25 points 1 year ago

The risk is for too great to underestimate Trump's chances. Vote, encourage others to vote, and bring a first time voter to the polls with you. Don't care who they vote for, because when more people vote, the minority party loses.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I don’t think they know what “private” means

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Obama never beat Donald Trump in an election, but Joe Biden has

[–] xc2215x 3 points 1 year ago

Trump has a lot of support. It will not be easy but defeating him is possible.

[–] Wookie_the_Ewok -3 points 1 year ago

Must of not been that private if it made it into the papers.