There's a great Behind the Bastards episode about Curtis Yarvin that really fills this all out.
The Broligarchy is real and Vance is the gateway to the fallback. Elon is just a willing idiot to be the tip of their spear first.
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Elon is just a willing idiot to be the tip of their spear first.
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Which episode, if I may ask?
Sept 17 and 19, 2024.
And there's nothing that anyone can do to stop it because the country gave a self-proposed tyrant and election rigger into office. The view right now is someone who won the majority is in power and is doing exactly what was expected. Don't be surprised
There are still things that can be done. Elon would really like it if you thought it was hopeless to stop him, because then you wouldn't try. He is just a human. If enough people actually tried to stop him, he wouldn't be able to resist.
For clarity, a lot of the things we can do to stop him aren't strictly legal, especially with the law in the hands they are. Some of the ways that would work are ones I shouldn't endorse in a public space. But we do still have options.
If the People put him there, the People can remove him. It's just a question of will.
Won the plurality, but yes.
They've been very openly talking about this for the last decade, it's not even sneaky. Technocracy and meritocracy and government-as-a-business have all been buzzwords and all been outed as bad ideas by the experts, but the buzz keeps growing among the money crowd.
I will confess that I personally thought they were too stupid and rivalrous to pull it off.
Unfortunately they're so stupid and egotistic that they're giving it a red hot go anyway
Thiel's company, Palantir, is making inroads at many fed gov agencies to manage their data. I've seen it happening myself. That's bad.
Twitter was both an ingredient and a practice run
And at the same time he ran it off a cliff
Yeah, I know thesr people are evil, but they're NOT geniuses, most of them are borderline mentally removed. Most of them just got VERY lucky, especially musk.
Yeah, I'm sure they're up to no good but a lot of it is just still messing about forward
Its still somewhat online. Its a broken shitfest of course but its main purpose, being a megaphone for the supremely rich and fascist is still in working order.
Thats exactly what they want for government, they dont care everything goes to shit, as long as it enables the corruption they want its working as intended.
Thank you, I've been trying to share this video wherever I can.
People also need to be aware of Curtis Yarvin, founder of the anti-egalitarian and anti-democratic philosophical movement known as the Dark Enlightenment. Many of the rich tech fascists in Silicon Valley share his ideas and ideals. From his wikipedia page:
Yarvin's ideas have been influential among right-libertarians and paleolibertarians, and the public discourses of prominent investors like Peter Thiel have echoed Yarvin's project of seceding from the United States to establish tech-CEO dictatorships. Venture capitalist Marc Andreessen, an informal adviser to Donald Trump, has spoken approvingly of Yarvin's thinking. Political strategist Steve Bannon has read and admired his work. Vice-president JD Vance has cited Yarvin as an influence, saying in 2021, "So there's this guy Curtis Yarvin who has written about these things," which included "Retire All Government Employees," or RAGE, written in 2012. Vance said that if Trump became president again, "I think what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice: Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, and replace them with our people. And when the courts stop you, stand before the country and say, 'The chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.'"
This page also documents a lot of the Venture Capitial Extremism happening right now: https://www.vcinfodocs.com/
And Ive been saying this for about a decade but I kept getting told that they are idiots and man-children and couldnt possibly be caipable of something that complex.
And here we are.
The thing is, there are always bigger idiots to be taken advantage of.
Yes. But not Elon Musk. He can't follow a coordinated plan. In fact not really any plan like he's proven over and over. And he won't listen to other people. Maybe he's doing it in the short term and on accident. But I don't think he's a very reliable puppet. Neither is he the puppet master. He seems to have a good financial advisor though. And lots of money.
He is a useful idiot at the moment. First through the breach.
Agreed. And he's willing. And useful and has a ludicrous pile of money available. I still wonder if Musk is pissed that his special government position turned out to be glorified computer administrator. But there's likely more going on behind the scenes.
Listen for a sec, the situation is a lot worse that you think.
Elon Musk has complete control of the Treasury. He hacked his way into the system, locked out all government employees. Migrating the data to private servers and deleting all government backups
All of the money is in his control with no way for anyone in the government to get back control over it
And even if they were to arrest Musk and seize his private servers. The damage might be so extensive it will be impossible to rebuild the agencies he destroyed.
He doesn't give a fuck about the title. He is in defacto control of the US government. He can literally control what the US military can and cannot purchase, who gets payroll and who gets fired. From the highest ranking general to the janitors in the Smithsonian.
Do you see where we are at?
Well, I certainly hope they do double-entry bookkeeping, off-site backups, versioning and keep old records... Plus any sane agency and companies have procedures in place so not even the boss can't mess up everything permanently with one mouse click. It'll pop up somewhere as part of the procedure. And there will be ways to reverse things. Yes, it's massively concerning that he wields that amount of power from within the government. But I think this is an extremely unlikely scenario. And Musk isn't even the type to do it this way. Plus even if... The treasury is the entity who invents the money. If Musk takes their money hostage, it'd mess up things for a while. But ultimately they could just lock him away and print new money.
I don't want to play it down. I think there will be some very bad consequences because of this. But I really don't think Musk is the main concern. He's not malicious in the same way as other politicians. He's also a memelord, likes attention, he likes to be popular and be liked by the people. I think that's amongst his motivations. And the latter makes it a bit unlikely to attack the whole population so bluntly.
And I don't think the same thing applies to other people in power. Some of them are plain evil and don't give a f... about being liked. That makes them free to commit any malicious act. And for example the president can write executive orders and mess up anything he likes. Immediately. He can bring nuclear doom upon us with a push of a button. The vice president also has quite some power. And while he seems like a complete toolbag to me, he's a very dangerous mixture of stupid?/determined? and evil. And we have some more unfortunate people in high positions.
I think I'm far more concerned with that, than with specifically Musk. But yeah, all of this is super dangerous and we can just hope for the best. Up until now a few uncomfortable things have happened. But some fears didn't manifest. I don't think it's doomsday yet.
The people with the institutional knowledge to rebuild these agencies are quickly being decimated. I hope to hell and back that I'm overreacting.
I don't really know what to say. Try not to allow them to get to you. Because that's part of the game. To spread fear, uncertainty and doubt. Maybe break people's spirit and make them panick. And it's also harmful if people feel overwhelmed and that there's nothing they can do. Because that's an instant win for the dark side once they have manipulated the regular people enough so everyone thinks it's futile and won't even try to fight back. In theory, the citizens/people have power. But yeah, I have no clue, so don't take advice from me. And I think an overreaction is warranted.
Okay, maybe I've changed my mind after reading this: https://ponder.cat/post/1533712
It's probably worse than I thought if some random new programmers are poking at that infrastructure as well and pushing arbitrary changes. I don't want to be in the position to clean up the mess after it fell apart. Or audit the system and rebuild it, now that it's practically compromised. Let's just hope they shoot themselves in the foot, first.
Oh boy, thank you for sharing.
Oh, great, they are going full speed ahead into making the world something like Shadowrun, literally run by shit megacompanies, minus all the cool tech stuff