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I was watching the RFK Jr questioning today and when Bernie was talking about healthcare and wages I felt he was the only one who gave a real damn. I also thought "Wow he's kinda old" so I asked my phone how old he actually was. Gemini however, wouldnt answer a simple, factual question about him. What the hell? (The answer is 83 years old btw, good luck america)

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[–] Squorlple 29 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Why would you use a chatbot to attempt to obtain factual information?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I mostly can't understand why people are so into "LLMs as a substitute for Web search", though there are a bunch of generative AI applications that I do think are great. I eventually realized that for people who want to use their cell phone via voice, LLM queries can be done without hands or eyes getting involved. Web searches cannot.

[–] Squorlple 10 points 3 hours ago

Would saying “Gemini, open the Wikipedia page for Bernie Sanders and read me the age it says he is”, for example, suffice as a voice input that both bypasses subject limitations and evades AI bullshitting?

[–] halcyoncmdr 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

To be honest, that seems like it should be the one thing they are reliably good at. It requires just looking up info on their database, with no manipulation.

Obviously that's not the case, but that's just because currently LLMs are a grift to milk billions from corporations by using the buzzwords that corporate middle management relies on to make it seem like they are doing any work. Relying on modern corporate FOMO to get them to buy a terrible product that they absolutely don't need at exorbitant contract prices just to say they're using the "latest and greatest" technology.

[–] DrFistington 5 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, I still struggle to see the appeal of Chatbot LLMs. So it's like a search engine, but you can't see it's sources, and sometimes it 'hallucinates' and gives straight up incorrect information. My favorite was a few months ago I was searching Google for why my cat was chewing on plastic. Like halfway through the AI response at the top of the results it started going on a tangent about how your cat may be bored and enjoys to watch you shop, lol

So basically it makes it easier to get a quick result if you're not able to quickly and correctly parse through Google results... But the answer you get may be anywhere from zero to a hundred percent correct. And you don't really get double check the sources without further questioning the chat bot. Oh and LLM AI models have been shown to intentionally lie and mislead when confronted with inaccuracies they've given.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

It looks like they disabled responses about current major political figures.

[–] Robotunicorn 6 points 3 hours ago

That’s because Google is not only a shit company, it’s also in Trump’s pocket. They changed the name of the Gulf of Mexico for US users. WTF?

[–] [email protected] 59 points 5 hours ago

By the way...

[–] shalafi 11 points 4 hours ago

AOC and Ted Cruz got the same response, as did "who is $X".

[–] Majorllama 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah it won't answer for any alive current political figures. Meh.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago

It answered for RFK jr

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago

I guess braindead counts as a form of dead