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Okay, posting this here because it is literally called No Stupid Questions, but I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this.

I got a message today on Reddit saying I was permabanned . . . I had really good karma there, never received any notification that I had done anything wrong, and never had a post deleted. The message said to check my inbox for more details . . . but there were no details in my inbox. I tried to appeal, and it was just denied in a couple of hours. No explanation.

Anyone else experience this or know what other avenues I can take? I'm going to be honest here, I had made a lot of friends there. I suppose I could make a throwaway account to let them know where else they can find me, but I'm pretty bummed out.

For context: I kind of prided myself as being a "Ted Lasso of Reddit." I mostly just got on to give people pep talks in the beginner fitness and /toastme subreddits. I'm going to miss that a lot, and I kind of needed a community right now, even if it was an online one. But, hey, maybe that's just my sign to check out this place instead. I'll try to look at the bright side.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The bans are AI driven, and the appeal responses are AI driven. You won't find an explanation for why you were banned, because there was no human behind the ban

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They're probably tuning the type of engagement the ~~stockholders~~ admins demand. Anyone who doesn't fit the bill of circlejerking the hive mind gets the boot.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Reddit has been actively hostile for a while.

Here?
On one hand, it's a smaller place, so there's less content to browse...
On the other hand, it's a smaller place so you can reply to an older thread and still have interaction with people.

On reddit, if I replied to a thread that was 1h old, it was like sending a message in a bottle, floating in an endless sea where none would find it or shouting in the void.

Anyway, welcome home / make it your home.
Peace

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Other things I like:

  • The decentralized nature means you will never truly be banned from everywhere unless your behaviour is universally considered unacceptable, in which case good riddance
  • There are fewer of us, so some people care about keeping individual users around. I've still received bans from communities for reasons I find questionable, but that's in the nature of having people manage communities themselves.
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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was randomly banned for no apparent reason. They gave zero fucks. Sorry that this happened to you too.

[–] SonnieTheseDays 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, I'll just consider this being in good company, then!

[–] crank0271 14 points 1 week ago

Still Ted Lassoing. I love it.

[–] QubaXR 26 points 1 week ago

Imagine you are a smoker and the addiction makes it impossible for you to quit. Then one day nobody will sell you a cigarette or let you bum one off them.

Count your blessings and move on.

Reddit Karma ain't worth shit. Imaginary Internet points.

[–] K1nsey6 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

My old account was 15 years old, approaching 2 million karma, never a single warning, no posts or comments ever removed for violating Reddit TOS and a some Zionist fascist pig admin didnt like a pro Palestinian comment and permabanned me

[–] SonnieTheseDays 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Reported! /joke

But that sucks. 15 years? I don't think I posted anything "political" aside from some LGBTQ stuff. I did poke some fun at some gamers who were butthurt about their game finally including girls. I don't think anything I said was all that controversial, but maybe they reported me for that. Warhammer 40k fans aren't above organized mass reporting from what I've seen on places like YouTube.

[–] K1nsey6 11 points 1 week ago

I was very political, but everything said and posted was within TOS limits. 3 of my huge subs were abandoned and are now being run by shit mods. They claimed I was inciting violence by saying Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

[–] bluebadoo 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We would love a Ted Lasso of Lemmy. Welcome aboard!

[–] SonnieTheseDays 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Thanks! I'll still try reaching out to the online friends I had made over there, but I don't think I'll bother with it again aside from that. I'll plan, instead, to find fun communities here for pep talks and stuff. I like cheering people on and have been told I'm good at it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] SonnieTheseDays 10 points 1 week ago

Luckily I have connected with most of them on Discord. One messaged me just now with the same problem, so she'll probably be incoming. I only ever saw her post about gaming stuff, and nothing that seemed controversial. She's saltier than I am, though. Oooh! Now I want to good cop/bad cop Reddit with her! I know it won't work, but the real hostility are the friends we made along the way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We're still a little small so you may need to make community you wish to see.

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[–] ThatGuy46475 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I got a 7 day ban for saying you haven’t served your life sentence until you are dead, they said that was promoting violence, I decided if they rejected my appeal it could only mean they don’t actually read appeals and I should just leave.

[–] SonnieTheseDays 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh . . . wow. I don't think I did anything wrong, but I'm certain whatever I did was worse than that. I'm pretty sure I've said worse things to my favorite dog today (it's okay to have favorites). Plus, that was really f*ing funny. Reminds me of when my friends and I have "stoner thoughts" competitions.

My last winning one was "Whenever you shorten 'convenience store' and call it a 'c-store', you are removing the convenience for the sake of convenience."

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Reddit has been on this trend for a long while. It might be because you posted in a sub that's gotten scoured. It might be because you said a word or set of words that tripped their algorithm. You might have been reported by someone for some reason.

Personally, I'm of the opinion that Reddit actively does not want real users anymore. They just want lurkers and bots. You might have genuinely been banned for no reason whatsoever.

[–] SonnieTheseDays 9 points 1 week ago

. . . [Quietly hides the fact that he is, indeed, a bot]

In all seriousness, though, thank you for that answer.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I think they want real users because they want to sell their data for LLM training, but that might mean purging accounts that are "too political" to be of use.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Seriously fuck Reddit, it’s gone to shit

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Yup, had this happen on 2 different accounts, both of which were in good standing. Same as you, no given explanation despite the message saying there would be, and no real recourse to appeal despite there being a provided link that simply looped on itself. Eventually, I was able to get a human via the "support team" who gave me the answer "All bans are final.". Your options are to make a new account or stop using their shit platform. Pick your poison.

[–] SonnieTheseDays 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I pick bourbon. Oh . . . oh, we were talking about something else. But, yeah, I'm going with quitting the platform. I don't see the use in trying to fight it, and even if I were to 'win', this will probably happen again in another month or so.

Side note: are you a raccoon that likes to debate, or is it debatable that you are a raccoon?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My skills as a raccoon are debatable

[–] SonnieTheseDays 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hmm . . . sounds like something a tricky raccoon would say to get me to let my guard down and . . . damnit, my trashcans!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] SonnieTheseDays 10 points 1 week ago

Hey, you know what they say. One man's trash is another man's F*CK YOU THIS IS MY APPLE CORE

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Consider it a nudge in the right direction.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

FYI you likely won't succeed with your alt accounts as they have extensive ways of fingerprinting you outside of basic stuff like your email or IP address.

I was permabanned for "ban evasion" after initially getting banned from /r/movies for talking about piracy and then inadvertently commenting there later on an alt account. I attempted to make a new alt with a VPN active and was banned again almost immediately. This happened to coincide with the great exodus, so I wasn't too sad to just let go of my 10 year old account and settle in here.

[–] SonnieTheseDays 6 points 1 week ago

I had created an alt in the past where I had asked some legal questions. That was about it, but maybe that tripped things up. Eh, regardless, it seems this place is more inviting. Also, the combination of words in your name might be one of the most comfortable combination of words ever.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

They also use device ID. You need a new device that has never interacted with reddit before (with a VPN and different email). They also look at the subs you subscribe to. The amount of info they collect is invasive, fuck 'em.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Quick let's mainline this person some linux

[–] SonnieTheseDays 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Is . . . is that why a mysterious penguin suddenly appeared in my living room. Whew. That's a relief. I was worried it was because of the shrooms.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

get some programmer socks so it knows your not a threat

[–] SonnieTheseDays 9 points 1 week ago

Stares down at crocs in horror. I'm doomed by my own hubris!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah, that's your sign.

Furries get a slightly different vision:

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[–] NeoNachtwaechter 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can only repay them in the same currency: Never give a damn.

Never give a damn about redit karma or anything they do, or promise. Never give a damn about how mods want you to be.

Make a new account in such a way that they cannot detect it, then go on with your life as if nothing happened.

Details: Use a new nickname, new IP address, no real name/age/location, a different app (or browser), a new mailaddress, subscribe a different set of subs (at the beginning). For the future: create your next account(s) before the current one gets banned.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

I got permabanned twice. One account was for using a slur. I was quoting from a movie in a post about that movie (Glengarry Glenross). It was clearly a quote but they didn't even respond.

The second time I made comment that happened to be in a post about an Indian man on a train, something about the simple fact that every video I see with an Indian man and a train, the man will do something stupid and die. It was in no way racist but some twat complained that I was using a stereotype and I was permabanned again. Again, no reply when I chased them

Fuck Reddit to hell and back. It's full of argumentative self-righteous tools anyway.

[–] DrFistington 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Welcome to reddit dawg. I had an account over 10 years old and another SFW account I was using that was about 5-6 years old. I was on my SFW browsing one day, tried to make a post, and saw that I was blocked, but there was no inbox message yet, so I went on my other account and saw that it had gotten a message about being banned for a comment made months ago, so I tried to appeal it, which was denied. Best I can tell they just banned all of my accounts once the first one got banned, even though I wasn't even aware of the ban in the first place.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I got banned for reporting a post with the statement "links to nazi platform" (it was a link to X).

I got a message in my inbox about my account being given "a warning" for abusing the report system. I was then permanently banned an hour later.

I had like 5 accounts, one of them dating back to 2008. They are now all permanently suspended. Because I offended some loser moderator.

Or maybe they all got banned because I still used a third party Reddit client? Oh well. Fuck Reddit. I'll continue using my cracked third party Reddit client and browse Reddit in read-only mode. Lemmy can be where I actually contribute !

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Which LLM are you?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I'm here because reddit is now a useless NFT cash grab and 80% of reddit mods are authoritarian pieces of trash.

You're not missing much. You could even find a mastodon community you like and start spreading your positive messages there.

Welcome to the future. Welcome to the resistance.

[–] Majorllama 5 points 1 week ago

I had an account from 2013 with hundreds of thousands of comment and post karma. They banned my account without even telling me why. I filed an appeal and that was a month ago now. Still haven't heard anything back.

I made a new account under a new email with a new Internet connection and a new device. It got banned after 30 minutes. I literally left one positive comment and upvoted a few things.

Reddit and their power tripping admins/mods can suck it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I just met you and I already love you OP. I’m sorry you got banned from Reddit but I’m glad you’re here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't use Reddit, nor do I tend to do so, so take what I say with a pinch of salt!

Reddit is one of those sites that utilizes AI moderation, so if you've been banned without any warning or notice, chances are your ban wasn't even authorized by another human, but instead by a bot. Your IP address can either be static or dynamic, and if you have a dynamic IP address that changes to an IP that is associated with a user who got banned at some point in time, chances are the bot will see you as that other person and assume a ban evasion.

You could try appealing. If that doesn't work, perhaps it's best to shrug it off and try a different social media. Lemmy isn't the biggest website in the world, but it's one of the best social medias I've used and people here are generally helpful and friendly!

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