This was in that KGB plan to divide America, after dividing NATO. Also in the plan: dividing UK and Europe and then dividing Germany and France within Europe. And every single one of those is being worked on or has already worked. Do not fall for it
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Thank you! Finding out about Foundations of Geopolitics back in 2015 or so has been incredibly detrimental to my mental health. People roll their eyes when you bring it up and you just have to watch it slowly unfold exactly to their plan, year after year.
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How is this uplifting?!
Because we you don't get our money unless our votes counts. We have put so much into the entire country and still get shit on from every other state.
Dividing the USA is not uplifting news. This is terrible for everyone.
Yeah, much better to have as much power as possible in the hands of the fascists. The opposition needs to get out of there as long as they can (unfortunately I dont think they can though)
Why that?
It would be great if both the east and west coasts join Canada. Then there's a new leader of the western hemisphere to replace the US, better and more modern.
Probably gotta swap Alberta here, but close enough:
Yeah I'm getting pretty tired of my state contributing far more in federal taxes than any other state just to help bailout ignorant, oppressive, poor red states.
We've got the money, the tech, the military installations, and the agriculture. Let's do our own thing. Or better yet, bring the whole West Coast in on it.
Northeast here, we would like to join you.
Yeah, we certainly share a similar sentiment in Jersey. I'm not sure breaking America up solves more problems than it creates, though. Like many problems I encounter, personally and as part of some larger whole, I don't see solutions.
Please call the new country New California Republic
I already have the NCR flag up in my house.
Living under the second Trump administration almost makes you wish for nuclear winter.
Please call it the Pacific States of America
Please don't, at least not without other states. Cali leaving would hand the Republicans even greater control of the House and screw over the other blue states.
California leaving would absolutely start a chain reaction of other states.
If California successfully left (trying that didn't work so well that one time), then I see Oregon and Washington joining. That bloc probably wouldn't spread further east, though. Too many red states in the way. Texas would probably also secede because honestly I think the only thing keeping them from doing so now is the precedent that it's not possible. New York would talk about it, but it wouldn't pass. Minnesota might talk to Canada about joining them, but they probably like their guns too much to actually go through with it.
Canadians have tons of guns. We just have reasonable laws.
Nevada is pretty red but they'd bail for anyone offering better gambling laws.
Nevada isn't just Vegas. There's a big values dissonance between Vegas and the rural North, and if the country starts fracturing I don't see them staying together.
I could actually see Vegas seceding from Nevada to either join with California or become an independent city-state.
Fallout: New Vegas would become real, in other words.
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It was not legal and unconstitutional when the CAS seceded, and it will be illegal and unconstitutional if California attempts to do the same.
Wait till you hear what these thirteen cheeky colonies did back in the day.
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Why not just change the law? Seems to be an option whenever other people want to.
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Right, because laws can't ever be broken lmao
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Are they gonna race Texas to see who does it first?
WA, OR, CA, MN, WI, IL, ME, MA, RI, CT, VT, NY, NJ, PA, MD, CO, NM, I would be okay with coming to Canada. The rest of yous? Idk.
Wisconsin is surprisingly red when you step out of Milwaukee and Madison and maybe Green Bay. And even then! Just remember those fuckers put Scott Walker in power.
E: Forgot how to spell
You DON'T want PA. They were one of the swing states that handed Trump the WH. They're also the fastest state in the Union
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Do NOT fall for this shit, they've tried it before. This makes america an easy red majority and that's the entire point of it. We're in this together and not going anywhere
CA here. I’ve had two good friends permanently leave the US in the last few years because fuck this place. I’m not sure we care anymore out here what happens to “America,” especially compared to what we could become without being dragged down by it. If this country is really going to go insane and fascist, then it needs to be weakened to stop the damage, and subtracting California from it would do that faster than anything else possibly could.
I and multiple others I know no longer use "American" unless it's explicitly prudent and never abroad anymore, it's "Californian"
Everyone who hears this, even the conservative dipshits, love it
I think when you're on a ship being sailed suicidally into a storm, arguing they some passengers shouldn't jump into life boats to escape just because it will only leave the crazy people onboard and "we're in this together" isn't particularly compelling.
Like, surely that's the point? That state finds it's people, their way of life and values to have diverged so far from the government and overall culture of the nation they're currently teamed up with, so they choose to end their union and become a free nation state again, as is their right.
The alternative to this peaceful split into two countries that can now run themselves the way they want to, would be one side attempting to impose their way of life on the other, to the point of massive crushing oppression or eventual civil war to see which side will dominate and force the other to convert to their ways.
Surely when we consider the options, peacefully going their separate ways when they're no longer compatible with each other's societies and values seems the best result, no?
The federal debt will balloon without blue states paying into the coffers, though? Quality of life will take a shit
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Okay... So I need to go be homeless in California before it splits, I reckon. Get a Cali ID. I am not, I repeat, absolutely fucking not, getting stuck in this shit hole with its new republican supermajority after all the blue states leave. I don't even like the democratic party, but I will be fucking fucked if I stay in the United Christofascist States of Trumperica
Thankfully, they'll never let anyone leave. Ever.
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Terrible name. At least use Califexit if you don't want to go with the obvious Calyeet or Califorgetaboutitimoutofhere.
If you never saw the 2024 movie Civil War, now is an excellent time.
Somehow Texas and California were on the same side which made the whole movie unbelievable.
I looked it up after the movie and it was done on purpose. The goal of the movie was to show how bad the glorification of this kind of photography and events can be. The creators of the movie thought it would have more impact and get the point across better if it was on US soil. Seeing a downed helicopter in a place you’d normally be shopping for instance. They made texas and california join together, because they didn’t want audiences bogged down trying to figure out who is blue, red, purple, right or wrong.
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