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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/24657192

Summary

In a virtual speech at the World Economic Forum, Trump suggested Canada could become a U.S. state to avoid his proposed tariffs on imports.

The remark elicited gasps from the audience.

Trump claimed the U.S. does not need Canadian lumber, energy, or vehicles, vastly overstating the trade deficit between the two nations.

He reiterated his intention to impose tariffs, potentially as high as 25%, on imports from Canada and Mexico starting February 1.

Economists warn such tariffs would raise prices for U.S. consumers.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Canada is avoiding Trump's tariffs by not becoming a state.

They are not paying the tariffs, american people do. So by joining the US they would start paying all the tariffs that Trump is putting on China's products, European products ....

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Democracy is demagogue-prone. That’s a disease to which electoral systems are vulnerable. Yet demagogues are easy to identify. They gesture a lot and speak with pulpit rhythms, using words that ring of religious fervor and god-fearing sincerity.

The practice can always be detected by anyone who learns the signs: Repetition. Great attempts to keep your attention on words. You must pay no attention to words. Watch what the person does. That way you learn the motives.

They create a system where most people are dissatisfied, vaguely or deeply. This builds up widespread feelings of vindictive anger. Then they supply targets for that anger as they need them—as distraction. Don't give time to question.

They bury mistakes in more laws. Traffic in illusion. Bullring tactics. Wave the pretty cape. People will charge it and be confused when there's no matador behind the thing. That dulls the electorate just as it dulls the bull.

Fewer people use their vote intelligently next time.

There appears to be a rule of nature that says it's almost impossible for self-serving groups to act enlightened, flowing with the forces of life, adjusting your actions that life may continue. With the greatest amount of happiness for the greatest number, of course.

The risks of democracy and how to prevent them paraphrased from Dune.

Apparent everywhere, Trump is just one in this path of centuries.

Focus on actions, not promises, and unite against inequality and division. Systems should be simple, transparent, and work for everyone, not just the wealthy or powerful. Educating and organizing workers, holding leaders accountable, and building solidarity across all groups are essential for achieving fairness. Lasting change comes from addressing root causes, not chasing temporary fixes.

Maybe the next century will show results somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I want to see Canada put out an open offer for immediate welcome, territoriship, and instant citizenship for any state along the border that votes to join Canada.

[–] Resol 5 points 2 days ago

Canada is already a state... a SOVEREIGN state.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

As a Canadian, fuck you Trump. Canada will never be a US state. Not sorry.

[–] P00ptart 40 points 3 days ago (6 children)

If it goes down I'm just gonna scoot up north and fight on your side for Canadian citizenship.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's a really good idea! I'm about 5-8 hours from the Canadian boarder but I will not fight for a fascist country. I'll either join the other side or join a resistance here.

[–] P00ptart 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm about 4 hrs from the border but could easily make that shorter in an emergency! Combat veteran as well.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'm a vet also. Never felt the need for a gun as a civilian, but November changed that for me.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The amount of Americans visiting Australia who assume people here would want to live in America instead given the option was astounding to me.

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[–] sircac 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why people keep listening to what that being says? Just respond to his actions, anthing else is useless...

[–] TrickDacy 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I somewhat agree with your point but after years of him saying he would do fucked up shit and then him doing a lot of it, it helps to be prepared for his intentions as they manifest into actions in many cases.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Trump seems to have the goal of destroying the US from all I can tell. Our economy and power are so dependent on our connections to the rest of the world and he is burning them all down. The US dollar gets replaced as the fiat currency we are wholly fucked and this dumb shit is how that happens.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Somehow, even with conservatives owning all the branches of government, it will be the Dem's fault.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

LGBTQ+ and immigrant fear can convince conservatives of about anything.

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[–] andallthat 24 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Who needs dollars when you have $TRUMP meme coins?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Fair. I was just thinking what the monetary system really needed was to be more obscure, cartoonish, energy intensive and unstable.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Us citizens pay tariff this doesn't hurt Canadians. They should call bluff and say do 30%.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Actually tariffs will hurt Canadians deeply. Why? Because it means that Americans will lean towards not buying products made in (or partially made in) Canada. Plus, Canada would certainly reciprocate meaning the price of everything is going to go up in Canada. It's not a good situation and our government needed to be spending the past 10 - 20 years developing stronger trade relations with other countries but instead we amplified our relationship with what is clearly a very unreliable and untrustworthy neighbour.

[–] unphazed 1 points 1 day ago

They're already gonna hurt cause homes aren't gonna make themselves, and we're deporting our construction crews...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Basically sums up how half America feels about its country.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It potentially reduces exports from Canada to the US, hurting our economy. Nobody wins

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Canada imports more from USA than it exports to USA. A trade war that decreases exports would hurt USA more than Canada.

The largest exports from USA to Canada are cars and trucks. (Finished products) The largest exports from Canada to USA are minerals, fuels and pulp. (Raw material)

This puts USA at a disadvantage in a tariff game, because it's a lot easier for Canada to replace American cars with Asian or European cars, than it is for USA to replace the variety of ressources that Canada provides

It's also a lot easier for Canada to find other customers for raw materials than it is to sell American cars on other continents.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 days ago

Trump is going to speedrun all our ~~vassals~~ allies into joining BRICS, and I’m here for it.

[–] inclementimmigrant 2 points 1 day ago

I mean honestly, he's just a giant douche canoe that accurately reflects the level of intelligence and emotional maturity that the most of his fucking deplorable Nazi base is. There's nothing he's here said that isn't what his moronic base says on a daily basis and is more or less a accurate representation of America and Americans by large.

America is a nation of idiots.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There is no actual fentanyl or immigration basis for tariffs on Canada. Just submit to less representation than California, and help absorb large US debt with little in return for it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

There's no basis for tariffs on Mexico either.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago

Dear Trump:

[–] Adulated_Aspersion 9 points 2 days ago

Just. You know....

become a state.

[–] booganiganie 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If'n he can point to it on a map

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

American anschluss of Canada to expand their lebensraum, because they feel they deserve it.

Musk does not hide how he feels about it, we wouldn't either.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

rip you guys are gonna get couped
imperialism is manifesting itself in the imperial core

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Canada is one of the few countries that has actually defeated the USA. They even burned the white house.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is the US so attractive that countries are lining up to join? 🤔🇺🇸

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Come for our healthcare! Stay cause you died.

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