Not necessarily a bad thing. A lot of new users to the fediverse.
I don't even know what this is. you cropped all of the information off
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That’s what the downvote is for 😉
Usage share among the various fediverse apps. That is, taken as a whole how much of the fediverse is Mastodon. This is the first time [ever?] it dropped below 70%.
but mastodon is not the same type of app as Lemmy ? why would they be compared? are they being compared? I'm just guessing because it's all cropped away
What's missing is that Pixelfed shot up in usage this week with it's official app releases on Apple and Google app stores. It at one point surpassed Facebook and Instagram in the top 10 on Apple I think. That surge was enough to reduce Mastodon's usage to under 70%. I think Pixelfed monthly active users is now like twice that of Lemmy.
Well, see, Mastodon has had a functional monopoly on ActivityPub usage, and also Mastodon users are able to and do engage with Lemmy communities. Mastodon's share of AP usage going down is of interest because the fediverse has a monoculture issue, and that's a thing people on a forum like this one should keep in mind.
They are all fediverse apps that talk to one another even if their purpose is different. Mastodon users can see and reply to posts on Lemmy.
I thought the cropping was just because the op was making a 69 joke
What am I looking at exactly? I see a cropped image, and mastodon is under 70%. Based on an educated guess and nothing more, I'm going to guess what you're trying to convay is that in the pie that represents the total fediverse, mastodon used to account for more than 70%, and now smaller services are growing. So mastodons total pie share shrinks, as the pie grows in other areas.
Is that about what you're trying to say? Or am I way off?
I thought the exact same thing. A badly cropped picture assuming everyone is familiar with the site it is taken from. Not even a fucking link back to the site.
Ooooooooo, I love your username! A username like that deserves a ticket on the number nine!
Correct. It's from https://fedidb.org/, if you scroll down the main page you can find the Software User Distribution pie
Surprising to me that Lemmy is only at 4.3%, it definitely feels very active to me.
I'm not sure how this is measured, but from what I've seen by using mastodon a bit, they have a lot of bots that repost content from other sources, so in that way it feels a lot less active.
Its wild to me how active lemmy feels compared to mastodon. I told my normie friends about it when I found out about it during the migration and they insisted that it would die and recently I was able to update them and say its still going strong and its got its own unique vibe that feels different from reddit.
It's because you can actually have discussions on Lemmy, whereas microblogging like mastodon is just "old man shouts at cloud" multiplied by 2 million people. I never understood the appeal.
Not getting this experience on Mastodon. I hopped on after Lemmy, but so far I've had several positive back and forths with people.
It’s incredibly active. It’s not gigagigant size, like masto, but it has a userbase large enough to survive for many years without an infusion. Reddit is still censoring lemmy sites, in case anyone else is curious
People forget web forums were way smaller than lemmy and ran just fine and were very active. Lemmy has a very different use case to mastodon. Since you don't need individuals to latch onto. We are having a discussion on lemmy as equals around a topic not followers of a person like how a Micoblog is designed to be.
Reddit is still censoring lemmy sites, in case anyone else is curious
Wow, really? That is hilarious
They had to learn something from digg
Yes very active. So active that, in fact, I keep seeing the same 1000 usernames all over Lemmy.
The front page of Reddit was the same 10 usernames for majority of the sites existence. I wouldnt be surprised if it was still the same users just using multiple accounts because so many people blocked their mains.
eh, reddit was like that for like the first 10 years
Even Digg. I still remember the complaints about mrbabyman.
Yeah, and it started sucking when it added more users.
Hopefully in 10 years, the moderation tools will be good enough to deal with a scaling userbase. What the fediverse needs is moderation subscriptions i.e subscribing to or unsubscribing from moderation actions of different groups or people.
For example, joining a community would subscribe you automatically to the moderation list of that community, but you could also unsub from the list if you don't like the mods there and sub to a group of people you trust more with mod decisions. Imagine if there's an overeager mod in the community you subbed to and you wanted to exclude the modding decisions - mod lists would allow that.
The issue to that is some moderation is mandatory by law, e.g. CP, copyrighted works. So mods still have to have the ability to remove data from the instances server completely, not just hide it. And instances probably also want to be able to have enforced rules on top of that.
I think what could do better is federating on communities level. So if you post or comment to memes community, it can post or comment to version of the community on multiple instances, each with different moderators.
You make a good point about legal moderation. Modlists could work on top of that.
"serverless" communities have been suggested multiple times and hopefully they will be implemented someday. It is a good idea.
That, and discovery algorithms that are user controlled maybe.
A thousand different people and you all recognise them by name? Sounds like a great community!
I swear FlyingSquid is the only poster on Lemmy.
That and ThePicardManeuver
No mention of Blaze?
A part of this might be shared interes. The same people visit the same spaces.
See it as an opportunity to build tighter communities and friendships.
This is looking at total users, but I think monthly active users would be a better stat to use here. Lemmy has about 3 times the MAU of Misskey.
Edit: Also worth noting that Pixelfed has close to 3 times Lemmy's MAU now.
For some reason the post cut off part of the full image.
Taken from https://fedidb.org/
They are both cut off.
Well I’ve been saying for a while that the fediverse needs to move on from Mastodon in order to grow, so this is a good sign. Though this is total users, not active users AFAICT.
Hmmm, fedidb says "total users: +93K since last month", "total monthly active users: +68K since last month". That's not that much, but not too shabby either.
Looks like the growth is more attributed to pixelfed
Pixelfed is having its moment in the spotlight - on the Apple app store it's currently getting more downloads than Facebook, Bluesky or Instagram.
Of course, it's helped along by the fact that people don't have it installed already. But still fun to se the Fediverse represented in the list of popular apps. I think similar things are happening on Android in many countries.
Good, more software diversity is always good. We shouldn't all just use a single software.
I know this is pointing at percentages, but those numbers are still way off from whatever else I was just looking at earlier today. Like they had lemmy #2, Pixelfed #3 and loops, whatever the hell that is, at like #5. Here on the best Fedi platform, friendica, they said there were just over 2,000 active users, making loops already at 6 times larger than us. I still think we need to get ready because someday the facebook migration will come and boy howdy.
Are Lemmy communities easy to browse from Friendica?