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[–] Sterile_Technique 118 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] horse_battery_staple 25 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Dissolve the electoral college

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That's probably the least of the issues.

Getting money out of politics and removing the ability for billionaires to exist by taxing them out of existence via a 100% tax above a certain number (that number is negotiable, but I don't think any person deserves to have over $50 million in combined realized and unrealized gains, as it is impossible to just "work that much harder" than the average worker). We live in a luck-based economy instead of a meritocracy (which cannot exist due to humans being the ones in control), but the wealthy have convinced us that we live in a meritocracy, and that they earned their massive fortune due to merit.

Simply having a billion dollars is enough to sway governments, even if no money changes hands, as politicians will think that it might change hands if they serve their overlords. Now, in reality, the exchange of money happens both before and after.

Check out Professor Richard Wolff. He's an economic historian and gives very solid rundowns of why the economic system must change in order for corruption to even have a chance of disappearing.

Not to mention the existence of the stock market at all completely defeats the idea that we live in a meritocracy. When your money that your parents gave you makes money, you're not working harder than anyone. It's just gambling for the rich, except they're able to sue and win whenever they lose thanks to people like Jack Welch and Ronald Reagan.

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[–] alquicksilver 8 points 2 weeks ago

We're gonna need a lot of acid. Or base. Either way, we need a lot.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Hard disagree.

Criminal investigations and prosecutions inherently take a long time to have the opportunity for due process. In sane countries, the entire election, from the time of calling, through campaigning and voting, only takes like 3 months.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (68 children)

I don't disagree that there are flaws with the US system, but the statement 'that any system that can elect someone faster than prosecuting them is broken' is wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

> You have the right to a speedy trial

> "No thanks"

[–] FlexibleToast 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I was thinking about this the other day. The right to a speedy trial is always framed in the context of the defendant. They can potentially quickly defend the accusations and move on with minimal disruption to their life. But, what about the right of the victim? In this case the people of New York, Georgia, and the United States. Shouldn't they also have a right to a speedy trial?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

A system that can elect a felon faster than it can prosecute him is fundamentally WORKING

..... it all depends on who you are talking to and what you are discussing.

If we're talking about democracy and the mutual positive development of humanity, than the system is broken

If we're talking about how to make wealthy people even more wealthy with near total control of the world, than the system is working fantastically!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Some of the delays were due to deliberate stalling by his supporters, but I suspect that many of the delays were due to Biden's and the DOJ's reluctance to put him on trial and either fail to convict him or convict him but let him go without any substantial punishment. I don't think they saw sending the guy who half the country wanted as President to jail as an option.

My guess is that this was a mistake (at least from Biden's partisan point of view) but it's hard to say that either of these two outcomes would have actually hurt Trump's chances. After all, he was elected despite the NY state conviction. I expect that many people here will say that Trump should have been jailed. That would have caused a crisis of some sort without necessarily preventing him from being elected, but maybe the risk was worth taking given that he did end up being elected.

[–] TropicalDingdong 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

that either of these two outcomes would have actually hurt Trump’s chances.

He wouldn't have been able to campaign. There is no fucking way he wins from a jail cell because he simple doesn't appear "viable". And of course another R would step up to get on the ballot, then you split the ticket and the conversation. Its pretty ridiculous to suggest that if Trump was in jail it wouldn't have had a significant impact on the election, considering that the implicit "viability" of a candidate is a primary contributing factor to any candidates chances. Even the slighted glimmer of a dent to viability and and a candidate is cooked.

Biden is and was a coward and his administration is composed of lack-luster managers of a now dead neoliberal management ideology. Their worthless approach to politics has been supplanted by fascism, and their unwillingness to take the act of governance in support of changing a system that fundamentally is not working for people is precisely why Trump was able to get away with literally everything. This neoliberal management caste will not suffer the consequences of their decrepit world view: We will.

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes 4 points 2 weeks ago

Counterpoint: try to destroy the country, get your head cut off and put on a spear outside the white house where people can take thumbs-up photos with it.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's just one way it's broken.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot 9 points 2 weeks ago

thats cause one of the systems was purposefully sabotaged, delayed, and deccelerated, so that the other system would protect him.

[–] dx1 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

What about Nelson Mandela?

Democrat fixation on just "Trump is a felon" is getting annoying. How about "he's a fascist" or "he's a war criminal"?

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[–] MidsizedSedan 7 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Im starting to worry if/when he dies. Thats alot of fans to be left without a leader. What will they do?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Probably fall into another cult

[–] TropicalDingdong 6 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe we should be so lucky that they'll find a cliff.

[–] Anticorp 6 points 2 weeks ago

Same thing they always do Pinkie, try to take over the world.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

there will always be someone to pick up the torch, don't worry

and each one will be worse than the previous

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Let’s hope there are several who want his position, they can all go down to infighting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

My hope is a good chunk of them join him.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Feeding frenzy to become the next cult leader. Might take a few years.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Next up on Lemmy: Elon and the Felon, episode 843.

[–] werefreeatlast 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Please replace "felon" with "rich asshole" so it makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

if felons couldnt be elected to office i wonder how many times someone the people want but corporations dont would get randomly arrested and on trial right around election time

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If trump is the disease, American democracy doesn't have enough antibodies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

... What? How do you figure?

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