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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 153 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My guess, is so they can do a photo session showing their cult "helping" with disaster relief. This is a common thing for them. Then they show the photos to their own members during circle jerks to convince themselves that they're doing good for the world. This in turn gets their members to pay more into the cult because they're gullible enough to believe this shit.

Source: Stuck my dick in crazy

[–] khannie 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Source: Stuck my dick in crazy

It's a solid source in fairness. At least you got out.

You got out, right? Blink twice if they still have you.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, when her cult started telling her how our relationship should operate. I told her to get out of my house if she's going to comply with them instead of our own desires. I should have bailed way sooner though. She was pretty fuckin hot tho 😅

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What did they want you to change?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We had met within the BDSM lifestyle as a Dom/submissive. She also had another guy in addition to me. All three of us got along fine, everything was consensual etc.

She was dabbling in scientology at the time but only just starting. The cult tells it's new members they're cool with everybody and everything. It's not till they've got someone hooked that they start directing them towards a vanilla, heterosexual and monogamous relationship with no kids. Even then, they don't say so to their face. It's done through manipulation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks for your insight. The biggest surprise to me is they discourage their members from having kids. Don't (nearly?) all cults/religions encourage their members to be fruitful and multiply because the easiest way to get someone into their stuff is through their parents? Weird.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Scientology is more about short term financial gains than head count. They encourage/train their members to have profitable careers. Having children makes it difficult to focus on running a business etc. The more money you make, the more money the cult can get out of you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I feel like that's a very short sighted way to run a cult/religion, but you can't argue with success. They seem to be growing just fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They just have to keep recruiting more people, so the long term survival would be predicated on the expectation that they won't ever recruit enough to starve their own supply. If they did reach that point, they'd probably change their policies.

But I don't think grifters care about the long term anyway. If they can make enough bank in the short term, they don't need to develop a sustainable strategy for what happens if their cash cow eventually hits the growth limit or starts reversing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I get that it's a strategy that apparently works better than it doesn't, I just feel that it's not as smart as indoctrinating many children.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think it's more about squeezing money from the present than anything elss

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

The old kill the golden goose strategy.

[–] Speculater 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Was it worth it though? Thank you for your service.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

It was fun for awhile but when she started going further down the rabbit hole I wish I had broken things off instead of sticking it out further. Things only ever got worse for our relationship once she decided to pursue going clear.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Xeroxchasechase 14 points 1 week ago

Yup, that's the correct answer

[–] FlyingSquid 9 points 1 week ago

Gotta stock their bunkers in case Xenu returns?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Their self-appointed leader is David Miscavige, a (very slightly different) clone of the once and very-soon-to-be next future führer of the United States. Their dissimilarities are not that many, nor that deep.

[–] IsThisAnAI 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Amazing how many people just allow themselves to get fucked and bullied.

Nobody and I mean nobody is going to respond to you giving one of them a bloody nose.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Oh fuck no. You could not be more wrong. Scientology have connections deep into the police force and the cops will absolutely respond to their call. There are some cool people on youtube documenting their scientology protests and engagements and you bet the cops are always there and defending those assholes.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who allowed Scientology to go this deep???

Who allowed... Oh.

If you have literal armed militias in a country with strong connections I guess Scientology is just a small footnote

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

They're the cult that venerates the rich and famous in a dystopia where money is power. Of course they're powerful. Especially because some of the narcissistic fucks who they venerate have joined up and tithe to the vile organization.

[–] HKPiax 22 points 1 week ago

Aaaaand my blood is now boiling