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Tencent says it's not a Chinese military company and is willing to sue the US Department of Defense if it isn't removed from a blacklist (www.pcgamer.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/technology

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[–] NineMileTower 265 points 2 weeks ago (22 children)

Here's a list of websites China bans:

Google
YouTube
Facebook
Yahoo
Wikipedia
Marxists Internet Archive
Reddit
Fandom
Netflix
Zoom
Blogspot
Bing
Instagram
WhatsApp
Twitch
Roblox
Steam Store
Steam Community
Spotify
Messenger
X
LinkedIn
Skype
Tumblr
Pinterest
SoundCloud
Signal Private Messenger
Dropbox
Pornhub
XVideos
Medium
Dailymotion
BBC
The New York Times
Vimeo
The Guardian
SlideShare
Discord
DeviantArt
The Washington Post
Nico Video
Archive.org (Internet Archive)
Bloomberg
Flickr
Wretch
HuffPost
The Wall Street Journal
DuckDuckGo
Scratch
Reuters
NBC News -TIME
Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC)
Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC)
Bandcamp
Technorati
Archive of Our Own
Viber
South China Morning Post
Plurk
The Economist
ABC
Voice of America
Radio Free Asia
NBC
PBworks
The Epoch Times
The Epoch Times (Chinese edition)
HBO
WION
Hong Kong Free Press
Apple Daily
TikTok
ChatGPT
Rockstar Games
GitHub
Hugging Face
Flipkart
Zomato
Clubhouse
Swiggy
Truth Social
National Weather Service
Kanzhongguo (English)
Kanzhongguo (Chinese)
Microsoft Copilot
Telegram
Voice of America (Chinese)
Teacher Li Is Not Your Teacher (by a famous anti-CCP Twitter poster)

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

National weather service???

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

(tin foil hat)

The government... They control the weather information... Satellites... Weather machines... Snorts cocaine we can't trust them we need to trust our eyes...

[–] InternetCitizen2 35 points 2 weeks ago

I'm sorry but you know too much. Come with me.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Basically any site that they don't have full control over/can't buy favor from and has the ability to spread info they dislike, even if it's something as simple as 2+2=4".

And if you're looking for someone outside of China to blame for their internet shield, Cisco was responsible for helping them set it up.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

And then Huawei allegedly stole Cisco's IP? Ah, the irony

[–] postmateDumbass 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Xhamster slides in undetected...

[–] InternetCitizen2 36 points 2 weeks ago

That's more freedom than Texas

[–] im_at_work_mom 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

.ml Intensifies

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

I came into this thread just to downvote their lies.

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[–] Carrolade 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Uh ... why SCMP? Isn't that a party-friendly newspaper anyway?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

SCMP is critical of China, but they do soften the blow

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[–] pennomi 175 points 2 weeks ago (34 children)

Of course it’s not a military company, it’s an espionage company.

[–] NegativeLookBehind 67 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

See?? Totally different!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Normally, espionage can collaborate with other branches of government, apart from the military.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Next you'll tell me all those cheap Chinese routers would allow our very telecommunications infrastructure to be hacked unless we're using end-to-end encryption.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/27/chinese-hackers-telco-access-00196082

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[–] AngryRobot 78 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Every fucking Chinese company is required to be an arm of their government and provide them with any information they request. It's not even a question, they are an arm of the Chinese government. They can get fucked

[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Same goes for US companies.

Have we learned nothing from Snowden?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (24 children)

Yeah it is similar, but not the same (at least not yet).

China is a one-party state, and the government has control over private enterprise. If you are a Chinese company, the PRC ultimately has control of it, and that means the Chinese military has access to anything you have access to, if they want it.

This is on a different level than anything Snowden released.

Edit: For people who think I mean "party" like US political parties: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-party_state#Current_one-party_states

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

This is on a different level than anything Snowden released.

Snowden released the fact that the major internet companies in the US literally have full time CIA staff and locked rooms with servers

Why is this on a different level? Is it because they're ASIANS?

[–] finitebanjo 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That Snowden releasing the facts and it being brought up in courts, state congress, and federal congress as well as national news all revolved around it being illegal in the USA.

In the PRC it's only illegal to talk about it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

That Snowden releasing the facts and it being brought up in courts, state congress, and federal congress as well as national news all revolved around it being illegal in the USA.

Did it stop?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The long and short of it is even leftie Americans have internalised American exceptionalism, even if they aren't cognisant of it. And the right are, well... Racist and don't want to admit it.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Both countries are acting in their own interests. Simple as that.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Imagine if that meant in the people's best interest.

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[–] randon31415 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sues. Lawyers do discovery. Tencent refuses. Court fines Tencent in contempt, rules in favor of the government. Tencent tries to bribe Trump with something.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Discovery process, you say?

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago

Oh my, the US military might have to change the name of the list to, "Foreign companies we're blacklisting for classified reasons". How terrible.

[–] Gammelfisch 28 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I agree with the US DoD. The large Chinese corporations are owned by CCP members and former PLA officers. Contain them until the PRC implodes.

[–] finitebanjo 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Not to mention I'm pretty sure all of their Chinese office buildings are literally in Military owned and operated land.

It would be like Google HQ being in the middle of a US military base.

EDIT: Although I do admit adjacent the Googleplex building there is a Department of Defense building like 10 minutes drive, near the airfield, but it's probably there because NASA operates on the airfield.

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[–] _sideffect 23 points 2 weeks ago

Lmao, poor little babies

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Isn't every chinese company part of CCP

[–] Kerred 13 points 2 weeks ago

"all right Tencent, make a game where you play as Tank man defending the innocent at Tiannanmen Square please"

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[–] SynonymousStoat 9 points 2 weeks ago

Cool, can we make the divest from American game studios now?

[–] postmateDumbass 8 points 2 weeks ago

The DoD will pay its fines 500#s at a time.

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