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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago

Really glad all our votes make a difference, we have great representation, these people really share the voice of the American people. /s

[–] iAvicenna 18 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

what a bunch of disgusting human beings. I think for them being a democrat or republican doesn't really matter. Like parasites they will just latch on to whatever opportunity is available and pretend like they are a part of the system.

[–] Gammelfisch 25 points 10 hours ago

US politicians only believe in the justice system when it suits them. Lobbing 155 mm artillery shells at civilians, packed into the Gaza Ghetto, is a war crime.

[–] finitebanjo 15 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

You see that every single GOP votes with isreal 100% of the time, tho, so vote dem if theres no viable 3rd party in your district.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

These are paid offices, right? Run as an anti-Israel independent, maybe it'll be the start of something big.

[–] finitebanjo 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Unless your platform is anti-abortion, anti-tax, pro-jesus then that would just split the vote between you and the DNC candidate, ensuring the GOP wins and doing more harm than good.

[–] T00l_shed 4 points 3 hours ago

Run on that platform and then immediately change to the Dems. As gop candidates have done in the past.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

You cannot win office with that approach outside of maybe a handful of districts

[–] Maggoty 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Here's an idea. We all just stop. And loudly let them know they fucked up. Because rewarding them for this behavior is just going to get more of it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This is why Trump got reelected.

[–] Maggoty 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Partially, yes. Clearly these representatives didn't get the message. So the lesson must be applied again in their districts.

[–] dtjones 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm in your camp, but I am also very cynical. I think your reasoning assumes they care if you do/don't vote. They know that they have an army of rubes (both Republicans and Democrats) who will "vote blue no matter who" or whatever the conservative equivalent is. In the last 8 years I have seen many very intelligent people compromise on their supposed values because to do otherwise would be an existential crisis. I don't know how you break through that.

[–] Maggoty 1 points 5 hours ago

House races can be surprisingly close. Either in the primary or the general depending on if it's a "safe" seat or not. The one thing they really care about is being re-elected. They will notice, even if they win a tough primary for a safe district they're not going to forget it. And if you manage to unseat enough of them then the message is even louder to the rest.

This is the way the game was meant to be played. Just apathetically voting for what's in front of you was something the parties invented to make it seem like there's no way to make change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

partially, yes

No entirely.

[–] Maggoty 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

When Trump won PA he won. The one state where we know people stayed home because of Gaza was Michigan and it would have caused a win for Trump if they had gotten to that point. But Michigan effectively didn't even get a chance to count because Pennsylvania's electoral votes put Trump over the line on their own.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

There are many ways she could have won with modest gains in other states.

[–] Maggoty 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Realistically they had to defend PA. Georgia and North Carolina were always a long shot and the only way the Democrats could survive losing Pennsylvania. PA landed Trump his 270th EC vote.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 minutes ago (1 children)

That’s timing that has nothing to do with vote distribution.

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[–] Dearth 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Only 30% of eligible voters vote. If even fewer vote it's even easier for elections to be manipulated

[–] Maggoty 3 points 8 hours ago

This isn't an abandonment of voting. You just don't vote for those guys. They have elections every 2 years.

[–] jpreston2005 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Here's the list of voters that you can narrow down. It's appalling. AIPAC, the pro-~~isreal~~Genocide lobby, has been pushing this, in order to shield their terrorist leader netenyahoo from punishment. The bill would not just sanction the International Criminal Court, but it's members. They are actively trying to punish individuals across the globe, for condemning isreals genocide, using the American peoples congress as their cudgel.

Meanwhile isreal has blocked or impeded every single humanitarian aid shipment to Gaza since October.

[–] WarlordSdocy 4 points 17 hours ago

Well atleast my representative was a no vote, wish more would be done but atelast my representative isn't following along with this.

[–] DicJacobus 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

the most furious debate of all time will be whether the United States is owned by the AIPAC, or the Russian Mafia.

if they aren't in one pocket, its the other

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

AIPAC has every politician kissing the ring at their conference. It is not even a contest.

If Russia had the same level of influence as Israel, America would be invading Ukraine with Putin.

[–] Ensign_Crab 30 points 1 day ago

This is what Democrats call bipartisanship.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago (8 children)

When will US truly have a centre left party atleast?

[–] eric5949 13 points 1 day ago

Considering we have a far right and a controlled opposition party, never.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Probably after we switch from a First-past-the-post voting system to something more representative.

Then people could vote outside the two party system without a spoiler effect.

We can make these changes at the state level. Alaska recently voted to keep using Ranked Choice voting. Conservatives were mad because Ranked Choice voting allowed alaskans to choose a more moderate conservative over Sarah Palin and pushed to have a referendum to go back to FPTP voting.

So why do Blue states use FPTP voting when it's clear republicans prefer it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I dont think FPTP is a problem, my country also have FPTP but we have diverse range of parties having significant influence. Electoral college is the real issue

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Dems prefer it for the exact same reasons. It makes things so much easier for them.

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