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[–] [email protected] 94 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I recently saw the movie Titanic for the first time. It honestly made me pretty mad how directly it relates to the problems of the intervening years since it came out. In the movie: rich people are not to be trusted, the experts are ignored in favor of media coverage, the poor are trapped below decks, there aren't enough life boats, by the time people start accepting reality it's too late. It's almost all too perfect. The iceberg can be global warming, or the pandemic, or the return of fascism, basically any of the major calamities of the past 10 years. And everyone saw the movie. It was a massive hit. And all anyone took away from it was that Rose gets naked. So both the movie, and the response to the message of the movie, are almost too on the nose.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago

Really good points that I've not seen articulated this well before.

I remember seeing the movie at the cinema when it came out and it really upset me. I cried all the way home and I was still tearful the next day at school. I really struggled to explain to people that no, it wasn't about Leonardo DiCaprio, it was this catastrophic and unnecessary loss of life caused by greed and hubris

[–] Tin 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Titanic nerd here. There are definitely lessons that we've still not learned. Greed and hubris are easily spotted, but the more insidious enemy that doomed Titanic was complacency. In 1912 there was a real sentiment that man was the master of the universe, that war was a thing of the past, that modern science made ships practically unsinkable... none of that was true, of course.

Jack Thayer, a survivor, later wrote about how the Titanic sinking presaged a sea change in the world, and not for the better:

"There was peace and the world had an even tenor to its way. Nothing was revealed in the morning the trend of which was not known the night before. It seems to me that the disaster about to occur was the event that not only made the world rub its eyes and awake, but woke it with a start, keeping it moving at a rapidly accelerating pace ever since with less and less peace, satisfaction and happiness. To my mind the world of today awoke April 15th, 1912"

[–] passiveaggressivesonar 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A titanic fan are you? Name every iceberg 🔫

[–] jaggedrobotpubes 1 points 2 weeks ago

No possible comeback from this one.

[–] WordBox 3 points 2 weeks ago

"Don't look up" exemplifies this 1000x better. It's frustrating AF but you have to remember to laugh or you'll go nuts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

The real joke is always how people completely miss the point on these things.

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[–] disguy_ovahea 64 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Excellent analogy.

I used, “Why do starving people have distended stomachs? They can’t be starving with those big bellies, right?”

The ship is more accurate and less upsetting, although shock can sometimes be compelling through cognitive dissonance. I think from now on I’ll start with the ship and progress from there.

[–] danc4498 20 points 2 weeks ago

Unfortunately, Republicans don’t care about logic or reality. They care only about winning.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Those are the followers with no money.

The actual Republicans who are leading the movement and making the most money are already on lifeboats because they know exactly what's happening and are already trying to save themselves, their money and their families (exactly in that order)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly! I've been saying this for long now. The truly dangerous people aren't stupid. If they were stupid, they'd be easily defeated. What makes them so dangerous is that they know exactly what's going on and also know exactly how to manipulate people into eating dirt, because it tastes so well, and really, is a sign of proper wealth, because you can afford all that dirt, and don't you want to buy more?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

It's hilarious when people think it's just one "party" of the state.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

They'll be fine longer than everyone else. Until the hull snaps in half and comes crashing down. Yeah, it's a good climate analogy.

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[–] psycho_driver 13 points 2 weeks ago

I'm more relating to that old couple that just lies down in bed and waits for the end.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Never gets old.

[–] grue 23 points 2 weeks ago

Like the children of anti-vaxxers.

[–] surph_ninja 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And Democrats are the band playing as the ship sinks.

Really I guess they’re both the iceberg. Both parties keep breaking extraction records, and protect fracking.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Both parties

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[–] surph_ninja 5 points 2 weeks ago

Oh did Democrats reverse their support of fracking? They stop supporting the Willow Project? Are they criticizing the Biden admin for breaking extraction records?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes it's laughable that we're violently controlled by uber-privileged "parties".

[–] Valmond 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or russians about their economy.

[–] Bacano 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or Americans about theirs 😂

[–] Valmond -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Lots of stuff bad in the USA but the economy isn't one.

Edit: lol angry anti USA people.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It is if you use more relevant metrics:

[–] Valmond -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So you think it's crashing, like in the meme?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, it's crashed decades ago and gotten steadily worse ever since.

[–] Valmond -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm talking about the economy, which is booming, not about inequality which is down the drain.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

You're talking about the part of the economy that establishment media and politicians focus on.

That part overwhelmingly measures how things are for the very rich while ignoring key metrics that better reflect how the ENTIRE economy is doing.

I'm talking about the ENTIRE economy, which in fact has gotten steadily worse ever since the early 70s with the only major anomalies being for the WORSE.

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[–] Bacano 3 points 2 weeks ago

Lmao the economy is great for those hundreds of feet up in the air.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Now show the dems collecting bribes/lobbying from the iceberg.

[–] LovableSidekick 4 points 2 weeks ago

"...and how is all this ice still here???"

[–] madkins 3 points 2 weeks ago

Excellent song about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNi1sevKNd0

[–] Sam_Bass 2 points 2 weeks ago

Because there are still hundreds of you on the ship

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