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[–] LEDZeppelin 156 points 1 year ago (58 children)

Meanwhile republicans are fighting tooth and nail to claw back student loan forbearance during pandemic and cancel any student loan forgiveness

Priorities, I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 132 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In July 2020 [during the pandemic], the Treasury Department announced it was giving a $700 million loan to the trucking company, helping it to stay afloat. But the loan immediately raised questions, in part because the firm was struggling financially and was being sued by the Justice Department over claims that it had defrauded the federal government for a seven-year period.

Seems like defrauding the government should make one ineligible for government money.

As of the end of March, Yellow’s outstanding debt was $1.5 billion, including about $730 million that is owed to the federal government. Yellow has paid approximately $66 million in interest on the loan, but it has repaid just $230 of the principal owed on the loan, which comes due next year.

Must be nice, can I get that on my student loans?

“We recommend that all Yellow employees who have personal belongings and tools at the terminals should take them home today,” wrote John A. Murphy, a co-chair of the Teamsters freight industry negotiating committee.

Yeah, that seems like a good idea.

[–] InverseParallax 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like defrauding the government should make one ineligible for government money.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/us/politics/yrc-coronavirus-relief-funds.html

The relationship between Apollo and the White House runs deep. In 2017, Josh Harris, a founder of Apollo, advised the Trump administration on infrastructure policy and discussed a possible White House job with Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser. That same year, Apollo lent $184 million to Mr. Kushner’s family real estate firm, Kushner Companies, to refinance the mortgage on a Chicago skyscraper.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Yellow has paid approximately $66 million in interest on the loan, but it has repaid just $230 of the principal owed on the loan, which comes due next year.

Which is exactly what students deal with every day. But it's ok to give millions of dollars to criminals, just not to students who are trying to improve themselves and the economy. If a college student cheated on their federal taxes for seven years, would they get a government bailout?

[–] afraid_of_zombies 107 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Remember this when you are told by Economists (who support bailouts) that student loans amnesty is impossible.

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[–] BadLackey 71 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Criminals giving criminals money, then socializing the criminals' losses, then gifting the criminals a golden parachute. There is the ruling class and everyone else. Most of the country is distracted by UFOs and drag queen brunches to care about the real problems.

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[–] Poppa_Mo 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like the fucking government shouldn't be bailing out corporations with our tax money to begin with.

[–] Buddahriffic 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If a business is too big to fail but is failing anyways, nationalize it.

[–] grue 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If a business is too big to fail, the FTC wasn't doing its job (i.e., enforcing antitrust law) to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They haven't been doing their job for decades now. It must actually be kinda awesome working there. Your entire job is just to LOOK busy but never actually do anything. Man, I could read a ton of books, do some hobby coding, plan some really need landscaping projects, OOOOO man I could do so much! Maybe I should apply for a job there. Here would be my interview:

What are your qualifications for this job? Absolutely none. I will be terrible at this job. You're hired!

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[–] randon31415 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was obvious from the start they were liers. Couldn't even tell us the correct name of the color - should have been orange trucking.

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[–] OsakaWilson 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If someone gave me 700mil, I'd probably retire too.

[–] InverseParallax 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the important thing is the executives got paid, right?!

[–] glockenspiel 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s right. People are missing the fact that Yellow was sucked dry by the do-nothing non-working parasite shareholders like 5 years ago. They begged the union for a “temporary” salary cut of 15% across the board AND a 75% cut in pension funding. It was made permanent by the company unilaterally while the suits further enriched the people with still too firmly attached heads. They also never restored health insurance funding which was another “temporary” concession.

The rich need to learn to be mortally afraid of the workers again.

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[–] Ghostalmedia 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Stupid company couldn’t even get the color of their logo correct. That shit was orange.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

This has bothered me for years.

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[–] Evrala 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I know several different people who work in companies that deal with shipping, Yellow has always been awful to deal with with a much higher rate of shipping damage.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I had been using Yellow and it was always a terrible company to work with.

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[–] golamas1999 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If companies are deemed to big to fail then they need to be nationalized.

[–] Mamertine 8 points 1 year ago

Nationalizing a company opens a whole new can of worms.

Do you just let them operate at a loss? How can the others in the industry compete with a company that the taxpayers subsidize to operate at a loss?

IMO, The terms of a to "big to fail" bailout should be a slow liquidation or a Ma Bell style breakup.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago
[–] Buelldozer 8 points 1 year ago

Here's a link to CBS News that isn't paywalled.

Yellow has been a horribly managed mess for at least 25 years. I was involved in LTL logistics back then and we avoided those dunderheads like the plague. It's a shame that they're taking $500 MIllion of taxpayer money with them since they can't repay their loan but that company should have died years ago.

[–] Desistance 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gotta be a special kind of incompetent to crumble in a booming economic period.

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