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As a British lad, I've been keeping tabs on the news about this guy and the wide support he's getting.

With so much support, surely the public will get him out of jail just to spite the bastard rich kids and their CEO baron fathers?

The Man who was shot allowed a massive corporation to dangle its strings over people's lives, medication being pulled away which is horrifying to me who uses the NHS as my primary medical service for hearing.

What do you think? Will Luigi "The CEO Reaper" Mangione ever get out of prison?

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (4 children)

on the wishful thinking side, biden pardons. also wishful: innocent until proven guilty, and that the evidence was planted.

but yeah, we will just have to wait on how the proceedings go. UHC has already flexed money in subduing luigi awareness merch.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (6 children)

They won't have even decided if these are state or federal charges by the time Biden is out of office. And if he's pardoned on the federal charges, the state can still charge him

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think he's going to get state charges for murder, that would be the normal thing.

There is an open legal question about what happens if he has done something that could be a crime under both federal and state, because double jeopardy says he can't be tried twice for the same crime. So if the feds brought charges and then he got pardoned, I don't think the state can bring relatively identical charges, but apparently this is a question that legal scholars don't know the answer to, and it would probably end up going to the appeals court if it were to happen.

Of course it's not going to happen because Biden likes those rich assholes and the timing doesn't really make sense anyway.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

It's not double jeopardy to be tried for the same crime in two jurisdictions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

There is an open legal question about what happens if he has done something that could be a crime under both federal and state, because double jeopardy says he can’t be tried twice for the same crime.

Read about Dual Sovereignty: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Jeopardy_Clause#Dual_sovereignty_doctrine

Basically, the Federal government and State government(s) are different Sovereign entities, both can charge for the same crime, and hold separate trials. "No Double Jeopardy" clause doesn't apply here. Even if Luigi were acquitted/pardoned by either the Federal or State government, the other can still try the case for the same crime. It's already an established legal precedent.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

good point about the separation of federal and state charges.

oh well, that's how far that wishful thinking goes.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Apparently Biden’s been running on like one cylinder for the last 3 years (who could have guessed) so I guess you’d have to hope his team of DNC operatives would pardon; which will not happen.

They’re mostly just pardoning people who defrauded Medicaid and put kids in to private prisons for kickbacks, while revoking student debt cancellation.

You know, pulling the mask off since nothing matters anymore.

[–] shalafi 8 points 22 hours ago

pardoning people who defrauded Medicaid and put kids in to private prisons for kickbacks

He didn't aim to pardon them specifically. They belonged to a class of offenses he pardoned. Just like he pardoned weed possessors. They were surely scumbags on that list as well.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I was half asleep I read Luigi's mansion.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago

Doubt it very much. Bail is for the rich. An example must be made.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Feel free to crosspost to [email protected]

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